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Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

For it to be blasphemy, Obama would have to be Muslim himself.

We're not at war with Islam, and anyone who claims we are has a very simplistic view of world events.

You don't understand that Koran that well. When you talk about Jihadist in a bad way, it pisses off Islamist who don't even want the Jihad around, as it conflicts with their religion. Kind of like Christianity. Sure Jews killed Christ, or at least had the Romans do it, but "leave Israel alone or else" kind of thing.
 
You don't understand that Koran that well. When you talk about Jihadist in a bad way, it pisses off Islamist who don't even want the Jihad around, as it conflicts with their religion. Kind of like Christianity. Sure Jews killed Christ, or at least had the Romans do it, but "leave Israel alone or else" kind of thing.

What the ****?
 

Which is why I stated Obama won't use the words "Islamic Terrorist." He doesn't want to piss anybody off in the Islamic religion.
 
I saw the film clip. Heard what he said from beginning to end.

Makes perfect sense to me. What's so hard for you guys to figure out?

Would a turd known by any other name not smell the same as ISIS?

You guys can make this a religious war if you wanna. I got no dog in the fight. Let Allah sort 'em out.

But I understand what, and why, Obama is taking that approach. And it shows a deeper wisdom than some can comprehend.

A lot can be said about Obama's hater's. First, no matter what Obama says or does, they hate him. Second, critical thinking is not one of their strongest suits.

Disgruntled bunch. Mean spirited. Teeth gnashers. They do become rather tiresome. When Obama's gone, who are they going to hate on next? Stay tuned!
 
I saw the film clip. Heard what he said from beginning to end.

Makes perfect sense to me. What's so hard for you guys to figure out?

Would a turd known by any other name not smell the same as ISIS?

You guys can make this a religious war if you wanna. I got no dog in the fight. Let Allah sort 'em out.

But I understand what, and why, Obama is taking that approach. And it shows a deeper wisdom than some can comprehend.

A lot can be said about Obama's hater's. First, no matter what Obama says or does, they hate him. Second, critical thinking is not one of their strongest suits.

Disgruntled bunch. Mean spirited. Teeth gnashers. They do become rather tiresome. When Obama's gone, who are they going to hate on next? Stay tuned!

If you honestly believe that Obama won't call it what it is because of some "deeper wisdom" then you might be thinking too much into this. They are Islamic. They are terrorist. They are Islamic terrorist. Might offend some, might not. Who cares? You call what it is, then you go after it
 
Which is why I stated Obama won't use the words "Islamic Terrorist." He doesn't want to piss anybody off in the Islamic religion.

Would that be the reason that Bush dropped such terminology during his last year in office, hmm?
 
If you honestly believe that Obama won't call it what it is because of some "deeper wisdom" then you might be thinking too much into this. They are Islamic. They are terrorist. They are Islamic terrorist. Might offend some, might not. Who cares? You call what it is, then you go after it

It was determined sometime ago that such language was counterproductive, and inadvertently legitimised terrorism.
 
This is what I do not understand, if people who want changes in the gun laws state that guns kill people, their opponents say that it is people who kill people (and not guns) they just happen to use guns.

Now here is Obama, he is saying it is that it is people who kill people (and they are using religion as an excuse), but his opponents now say that Obama is wrong and that it is religion who is killing people.

The weird thing is that the most vocal opponents of the pro-gun control people, are the same people who are blasting Obama for saying kinda the same thing they are using themselves to point out that the "guns kill people" comment is untrue.

So "guns kill people" is a lie but "religion kills people" is the truth? You cannot have it both ways IMHO.

Obama is right and the anti-gun control people are right. People kill people, guns and religion are just tools in their killing ways.
 
Obviously.

You're saying that the Bush administration discontinued the use of such language because they feared that they would piss someone off??
 
You're saying that the Bush administration discontinued the use of such language because they feared that they would piss someone off??

Are you saying that Bush was a heartless being who hated everyone and wished to kill the very existence of life on earth? Because according to my research, he's no longer in office and were still alive.
 
Are you saying that Bush was a heartless being who hated everyone and wished to kill the very existence of life on earth? Because according to my research, he's no longer in office and were still alive.

I'm saying that in his last year in office, he realised that the language he was using, the same language that you now want Obama to use, was counterproductive and was legitimising terrorism. Why are you having such trouble with this?
 
WASHINGTON — They’re burning and beheading victims in the name of Islam, but President Obama delivered a major speech Wednesday on combating violent extremism — while refusing to use the words “Muslim terrorists.”

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“No religion is responsible for terrorism — people are responsible for violence and terrorism,” Obama told a crowd that included Muslim community leaders at the White House.

Obama refuses to acknowledge

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Hey! What about poverty? Did ya see my selfies? Pretty good, huh?
 
I'm saying that in his last year in office, he realised that the language he was using, the same language that you now want Obama to use, was counterproductive and was legitimising terrorism. Why are you having such trouble with this?

""Never use the terms 'jihadist' or 'mujahedin' ... to describe the terrorists," instructs the guide. "A mujahed, a holy warrior, is a positive characterization in the context of a just war. In Arabic, jihad means 'striving in the path of God' and is used in many contexts beyond warfare. Calling our enemies Jihadis and their movement a global Jihad unintentionally legitimizes their actions."

How clearly it states that calling a Jihad, or Holy Warrior, an "Islamic TERRORIST" as I stated, would piss Islamist off. It in no way "legitimizes actions." They are, in the eyes of Islam, HOLY WARRIORS. I never said Bush was right in not using the term. I said he did it as a way to stop offending as well. If you want to believe they no longer use the term because of "legitimizing" be my guest. Believe whatever you want. Funny how most can say Bush lied about everything, but but I guess not this, right?
 
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Exactly, and this was learned by the end of the Bush administration too. All reference to Islamic extremism and jihad were expunged from the BA vocabulary, in their last year.
Ok, and that, if true was wrong too. Still doesn't excuse Obama
 
That's because they are not Muslims, they are barbarians.
 
Im saying we have a leader who wont dare utter the problem. His PC spin prevents this.

First the 'problem' isn't a religion but a few terrorists who pervert a religion in an attempt to gain cover for their incredible vicious power grab.

Second, that a few CONs are hellbent on calling these terrorists Muslim doesn't change the equation.

Third, calling the Japanese slurs during WWII didn't 'help' in the final victory... amazing science did...

Fourth, the President did 'dare utter the problem'- that he didn't phrase it the way a few way out CONs wished is on you.... :peace
 
Hey! What about poverty? Did ya see my selfies? Pretty good, huh?

Now don't be so critical.
He's a humble guy who's thankful for his blessings.

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Is Christianity at war with equality because they don't believe in same sex marriage?

Is Christianity at war with a woman's right to choose because they don't believe in abortion?

Was Christianity at war with American blacks and other Americans of color as it was Christianity was used to legitimize slavery and segregation?


I'd say no. I'd say it just a bunch of asshats that are twisting religion to get motive people to empower them. The same applies to ISIS.
 
WASHINGTON — They’re burning and beheading victims in the name of Islam, but President Obama delivered a major speech Wednesday on combating violent extremism — while refusing to use the words “Muslim terrorists.”

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“No religion is responsible for terrorism — people are responsible for violence and terrorism,” Obama told a crowd that included Muslim community leaders at the White House.

Obama refuses to acknowledge

Just because you want to give ISIS what it wants, worldwide recognition that it is Islam's true representative and is fighting a muslim holy war against the west, does not mean Obama will go along with it. You can praise ISIS to the rooftops for their "religious purity" if you want but sane people will recognize them for the thugs and criminals they are.
 
I have heard about the atheist that killed those muslims-tragic. However this was a "summit" on terrorism, and he couldn't even put the words together, according to the article the world Islam wasn't even said once.

Thats a problem, we can't win the war on terror if POTUS wont admit where the problem lies.

That's not even true, though. Obama said “And we are not at war with Islam. We are at war with people who have perverted Islam." So you're reading tabloid garbage meant to get you all fired up and it's working. With all the legitimate issues to talk about, you're focused on whether or not Obama will say that terrorists are terrorists because their god is different? You want him to say that their religion makes them kill us and we believe in the correct god who is the only god of peace? I don't understand what you want.
 
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