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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Front to back, not on your life. But I've read enough, and unlike the troublesome aspects of the Old Testament, none of which Jesus taught, there isn't a rescinding within the Koran for the edicts against the killing of Jews (and Christians, by proxy).
    From what I've gathered, if you don't hide behind a tree, you're okay. If you're not an Infidel, you're okay. If you not a Muslim, you're not okay. If you're not a Muslim and you hide behind a tree the possibilities for your manner of death are limitless. This can be expressed as a log function, I think. Has to do with the potential possibilities and the tree (and the log function as a result) are greater than most think.

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Is Christianity at war with equality because they don't believe in same sex marriage?

    Is Christianity at war with a woman's right to choose because they don't believe in abortion?

    Was Christianity at war with American blacks and other Americans of color as it was Christianity was used to legitimize slavery and segregation?


    I'd say no. I'd say it just a bunch of asshats that are twisting religion to get motive people to empower them. The same applies to ISIS.
    Hi Tettsuo, does it stop many liberals from attacking Christianity? I'd say no. So, you sound like you want to have it both ways
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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hi Tettsuo, does it stop many liberals from attacking Christianity? I'd say no. So, you sound like you want to have it both ways
    Saying you don't agree with Christianity being used to basically block rights for others is not attacking Christianity, it's upholding the promise of America in the face of extremist.
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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Saying you don't agree with Christianity being used to basically block rights for others is not attacking Christianity, it's upholding the promise of America in the face of extremist.
    So Muslims are okay with abortion, same sex marriage, homosexuality, sexual liberation, women's rights, etc.?

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    "Anti-liberals"? Oh what a victim you are...
    Pretty much. Lots of liberals are perpetual victims, self-assured that people are out to get them because they are liberals, not because they hold ridiculous ideas.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So Muslims are okay with abortion, same sex marriage, homosexuality, sexual liberation, women's rights, etc.?
    Radical Islam = Radical Christianity
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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    This is what I do not understand, if people who want changes in the gun laws state that guns kill people, their opponents say that it is people who kill people (and not guns) they just happen to use guns.

    Now here is Obama, he is saying it is that it is people who kill people (and they are using religion as an excuse), but his opponents now say that Obama is wrong and that it is religion who is killing people.

    The weird thing is that the most vocal opponents of the pro-gun control people, are the same people who are blasting Obama for saying kinda the same thing they are using themselves to point out that the "guns kill people" comment is untrue.

    So "guns kill people" is a lie but "religion kills people" is the truth? You cannot have it both ways IMHO.

    Obama is right and the anti-gun control people are right. People kill people, guns and religion are just tools in their killing ways.
    Guns are not a philosophy, guns have no means of convincing people to resort to violence. Religion does. Religion is the reason that these people are acting the way they are. Religion is the purpose behind their actions. You cannot say the same for guns, you absolutely can say it for religion.

    Not sure why so many people can't get this through their heads.
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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by chad1389 View Post
    ""Never use the terms 'jihadist' or 'mujahedin' ... to describe the terrorists," instructs the guide. "A mujahed, a holy warrior, is a positive characterization in the context of a just war. In Arabic, jihad means 'striving in the path of God' and is used in many contexts beyond warfare. Calling our enemies Jihadis and their movement a global Jihad unintentionally legitimizes their actions."

    How clearly it states that calling a Jihad, or Holy Warrior, an "Islamic TERRORIST" as I stated, would piss Islamist off. It in no way "legitimizes actions." They are, in the eyes of Islam, HOLY WARRIORS. I never said Bush was right in not using the term. I said he did it as a way to stop offending as well. If you want to believe they no longer use the term because of "legitimizing" be my guest. Believe whatever you want. Funny how most can say Bush lied about everything, but but I guess not this, right?
    Ok, tell ya what. Pick any reason you wish to believe that Bush wasn't using jihad, Mujahideen, or Islamic terrorists. The point stands that IT WASNT BEING USED, and Obama isn't using it either.
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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    For it to be blasphemy, Obama would have to be Muslim himself.

    We're not at war with Islam, and anyone who claims we are has a very simplistic view of world events.
    Or is an evangelical christian. They've been dying for a return to the crusades for quite some time. They see it as bringing us closer to their silly book's end of time. They're a silly group of people.
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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Radical Islam = Radical Christianity
    That wasn't the question.

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