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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why is it so important to you to blame a holy book instead of the individuals who actually carry out atrocities?
    When people are poorly educated they will respond in unpredictable ways. And when their instructions are based mostly on the teachings of seventh century lunatic than these unpredictable ways become ever more likely.

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why is it so important to you to blame a holy book instead of the individuals who actually carry out atrocities?
    Because that specific holy book caused those people to perform those specific acts. If not for those beliefs, based on that holy book, those acts could never have been performed as they were. A better question is, why is it so important for you to defend religion from all attacks, even the blatantly valid ones?
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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by chad1389 View Post
    Obama won't call it what it is because that would be blasphemy. In the eyes of Islam, Jihadist (warriors) are holy men. To speak ill of them would be wrong in that religion. To them, these are not "Islamic terrorist," but Holy Warriors, thus it's why he won't put the two words together.

    "We are not at war with Islam."

    A repeated phrase he uses quite often, which in his eyes are correct. He is not at war with Islam, but Islam is at war with us, which is something he won't add into that phrase. The fact is we ar at war with Islam, whether we wish to believe it or not.
    Ah yes... it's hilarious to see that conservative hacks have run out of material so they are repeating "Obama is a Muslim" attack that they are resurrecting from their 2008 campaign strategy. How'd that work out for you guys back then?
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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Ah yes... it's hilarious to see that conservative hacks have run out of material so they are repeating "Obama is a Muslim" attack that they are resurrecting from their 2008 campaign strategy. How'd that work out for you guys back then?
    The logical and rhetorical pretzels into which some of our esteemed DP members will twist themselves in order to craft this narrative that Obama is soft on terrorism are astounding.
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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Im saying we have a leader who wont dare utter the problem. His PC spin prevents this.
    Little quiz for you. I even made it easy by putting the answers in there.


    1. “Ours is a war not against a religion, not against the Muslim faith. But ours is a war against individuals who absolutely hate what America stands for.”
    Bush

    2. “They’re terrorists. And we are not at war with Islam. We are at war with people who have perverted Islam.”
    Obama

    3. “Our war is not against Islam, or against faith practiced by the Muslim people. Our war is a war against evil.”
    Bush

    4. “Our enemy doesn’t follow the great traditions of Islam. They’ve hijacked a great religion.”
    Bush

    5. “Given the…nature of the enemy — which is not a traditional army — this work takes time, and will require vigilance and resilience.”
    Obama

    6. “The terrorists do not speak for over a billion Muslims who reject their hateful ideology.”
    Obama

    7. “The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself.”
    Bush

    8. “How do we, as people of faith, reconcile these realities — the profound good…the compassion and love that can flow from all of our faiths, operating alongside those who seek to hijack religious for their own murderous ends?”
    Obama

    9. “There are thousands of Muslims who proudly call themselves Americans, and they know what I know — that the Muslim faith is based upon peace and love and compassion.”
    Bush

    10. “This great religion in the hands of a few extremists has been distorted to justify violence.”
    Obama

    Now back to your regularly scheduled faux outrage.
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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The logical and rhetorical pretzels into which some of our esteemed DP members will twist themselves in order to craft this narrative that Obama is soft on terrorism are astounding.
    Mentally shallow people will believe any source that feeds their anger.
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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    When people are poorly educated they will respond in unpredictable ways. And when their instructions are based mostly on the teachings of seventh century lunatic than these unpredictable ways become ever more likely.
    But Grant, how does this explain away those from the left that are here in the US.....that think they are educated?

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Frantz Fanon View Post
    No. They are barbarians blathering about the apocalypse and how God is telling them to behead people. They are Muslims only to those who need to perpetuate the Clash of Civilizations bs Samuel Huntington tried to sell in the wake of the Cold War.

    In no verse of the Qu'ran does it condone any of the actions of ISIS

    10. Qur'an 3:32 - Hate (Allah only loves believers in Allah. That’s only Muslims!)

    "Say: Obey Allah and His Messenger; But if they turn back, then surely Allah does not love the unbelievers."

    9. Qur'an 48:29 - Terrorize (Muslims are to be severe to unbelievers!)

    "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves."

    8. Qur'an 4:24 - Rape (Approved for your women captives, even if married as to avoid adultery!)

    "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess. It is a decree of Allah for you."

    7. Qur'an 5:33 - Murder (Punished, crucified for objecting to Sharia!)

    "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

    6. Qur'an 9:5 - Idolators - (Convert, die or pay jizyah tax!)

    "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."

    5. Qur'an 9:29 - Dominate The World (Dhimmi / death / subdued!)

    "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

    4. Qur'an 9:73 - Apostates & Hypocrites (Non-Muslims are to be hunted like animals!)

    "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."

    3. Qur'an 9:111 - Jihad = Holy War (Believers are those who slay and are slain!)

    "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."

    2. Qur'an 47:35 - Power & Victory (Peace is the cry of those being slaughtered!)

    "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"

    1. Qur'an 2:106 - Abrogation (The later verse erases the former!)

    "Whatever communications We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better that it or like it. Do you not know that Allah has power over all things?"



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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Saying you don't agree with Christianity being used to basically block rights for others is not attacking Christianity, it's upholding the promise of America in the face of extremist.
    What "rights" is Christianity attempting to block for others today, and please give examples.

    Trying to turn this into an argument of today's Christians are the extremists, is laughably irrational. You might as well tell me that we need to submit to the will of the Caliphate.
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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Little quiz for you. I even made it easy by putting the answers in there.


    1. “Ours is a war not against a religion, not against the Muslim faith. But ours is a war against individuals who absolutely hate what America stands for.”
    Bush

    2. “They’re terrorists. And we are not at war with Islam. We are at war with people who have perverted Islam.”
    Obama

    3. “Our war is not against Islam, or against faith practiced by the Muslim people. Our war is a war against evil.”
    Bush

    4. “Our enemy doesn’t follow the great traditions of Islam. They’ve hijacked a great religion.”
    Bush

    5. “Given the…nature of the enemy — which is not a traditional army — this work takes time, and will require vigilance and resilience.”
    Obama

    6. “The terrorists do not speak for over a billion Muslims who reject their hateful ideology.”
    Obama

    7. “The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself.”
    Bush

    8. “How do we, as people of faith, reconcile these realities — the profound good…the compassion and love that can flow from all of our faiths, operating alongside those who seek to hijack religious for their own murderous ends?”
    Obama

    9. “There are thousands of Muslims who proudly call themselves Americans, and they know what I know — that the Muslim faith is based upon peace and love and compassion.”
    Bush

    10. “This great religion in the hands of a few extremists has been distorted to justify violence.”
    Obama

    Now back to your regularly scheduled faux outrage.
    Yep. This is one of the rights most blatant partisan attacks.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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