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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    So what country in the Middle East has initiated or instigated actions against us, hmm?
    There have been several and at different times in different decades. But the point is......when others initiate or instigate action. It requires a response. Which running away isn't any answer. Moreover.....running away doesn't work when allies are involved.

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    So what country in the Middle East has initiated or instigated actions against us, hmm?
    How about Iran?

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    There have been several and at different times in different decades. But the point is......when others initiate or instigate action. It requires a response. Which running away isn't any answer. Moreover.....running away doesn't work when allies are involved.
    Our 2006 NIE doesn't advocate running away from anything. It simply points out that what were doing in the ME is making matters worse. And you want to do more of the same, lol.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    How about Iran?
    What are you speaking of. And was it before or after the CIA overthrew their government, or perhaps the civilian airliner our Navy shot down. What about our cyber attacks on Iran.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Our 2006 NIE doesn't advocate running away from anything. It simply points out that what were doing in the ME is making matters worse. And you want to do more of the same, lol.
    No I just understand those absolutes that you play with.....have no real place in FP. Other Nations out there aren't always doing things to help matters for all around them. Some intentionally do things to affect other nations and their allies. Things that aren't good for those nations or their allies.

    Its a reality that you can't get around. Nor any other.

    But then one day you will fully understand the word and the meaning which is Sovereignty.

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    No I just understand those absolutes that you play with.....have no real place in FP. Other Nations out there aren't always doing things to help matters for all around them. Some intentionally do things to affect other nations and their allies. Things that aren't good for those nations or their allies.

    Its a reality that you can't get around. Nor any other.

    But then one day you will fully understand the word and the meaning which is Sovereignty.
    You're arguing with a Bush era NIE, not me!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You're arguing with a Bush era NIE, not me!
    Like I stated before I wasn't just talking about Bush. It was Foreign Policy and whats its there for.....and it starts well before your favorite on the Blame game. Buuuuuuuuuuuush!

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Like I stated before I wasn't just talking about Bush. It was Foreign Policy and whats its there for.....and it starts well before your favorite on the Blame game. Buuuuuuuuuuuush!
    Of course it starts before Bush. How many times have I pointed out that our ME policies since at least Carter have been destructive, hmm? And talk about blame game. Look at you with Obama.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What are you speaking of. And was it before or after the CIA overthrew their government, or perhaps the civilian airliner our Navy shot down. What about our cyber attacks on Iran.
    We are absolutely not innocent of any of those things, we are just as guilty of all kinds of atrocities around the world, which unfortunately, lots of Americans are willing to ignore or gloss over or make excuses for.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    We are absolutely not innocent of any of those things, we are just as guilty of all kinds of atrocities around the world, which unfortunately, lots of Americans are willing to ignore or gloss over or make excuses for.
    Yes, Americans should step aside and let the Chinese, the Muslims or the Russians be the 'Policemen of The World'. What could possibly go wrong with that idea?

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