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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Our oil interests. What about the interests of the citizens of the Middle East. They really don't give a damn about your interests, or US interests. They just want to see the fighting stop. At least under the leaders that the US removed from office, they knew what the hell to expect, and they knew how to get to the market and back. And we have an NIE that documents my position. Whereas your position is the same old partisan democrat=bad! republican=good.

    No mine had nothing to do with parties.....mine had to do with US FP. Oh and Oil isn't our only interests.

    So why deflect when it was clearly stated about actions initiated by those in the ME Monte? Actions and behaviors that that align them against us. Again, Monte.....Initiated by those in the ME.

    Which means anything the US does.....is in response.

    Note how you little issue about parties means nothing with this point. It just means other countries doing something to screw with us. Which none in either party would accept your way of Submission and don't stir up the natives, when it is response time.

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Obama just had a "terrorism summit" where he couldn't say the words islamic terror as if thats not the real problem. If he does not think they are "real muslims" why do are they allowed to observe strict muslim religious rights in jail? Why is their food halal?

    You may not like it-but this is just a very literal interpretation of Islam they are adhering to, and its not confined to one locality-its a legitimate-if not extreme sect of Islam, just like fundamentalists or elsewhere.
    I'm all for our elected figureheads coming out and saying that what ISIS believes in is a perversion of Islam. The Muslims I know are probably best described as pacifists. They are as pious and nonviolent as any religious-oriented person I've ever known. What many of these terrorist organizations do - and yes, they are Islamic terrorist organizations - is maneuver themselves into positions of power for their own benefit. They want to be the dominant political force in the region. Drawing people in with Islam and claiming that their members are fighting a holy war is what appeals to these very misled and troubled young people who grow up in areas overrun with violence and corruption.

    ISIS adheres to a legitimate form of Islam just as the Westboro Baptist Church adheres to a legitimate form of Christianity. Both are cults that use religion to draw people in, the difference is that ISIS uses brutality to set themselves up to be power players on a global scale.

    But all that aside, the claim that Obama didn't use the word "Islam" is a lie and illustrates how misled you are on the issue. The far right spin is that Obama is appeasing terrorists, and that's complete garbage.
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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Everyone knows it is not 'representative' of the Muslims faith but it is a branch of the Muslim faith, right? What ISIS and others are doing can be supported by statements in the Koran, and they are following those demands.

    There are similar demands made in the OT but the New Testament, which doesn't say anything about killing non-believers, is what Christians (hence the name) now follow.

    If you want to defend Muslims you might try another tack than attacking Christians. This is not a religious war, at least from the non-Muslim perspective.
    It's not a branch of the Muslim faith either.

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    So you have nothing, thanks for wasting my time, I wish you would have been upfront about this.
    When you make a coherent point or argument I might carry you a few rounds.

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Is this a war against the USA? If so, why are Muslims also murdering non-Americans around the world?
    We've moved on to the rhetorical question part of the show apparently.

    If you are a Muslim you are not murdering innocent people despite all the neat little internet memes are pimping these days.

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The abuse is from all sides, and it indicates he's a stubborn and naive fool.
    The US has Muslim allies in the ME and needs them to fight against ISIS. But you want Obama to alienate over one billion Muslims and start a crusade against Islam because of a few radical jihadi i's running amuck in the desert? Really?



    Sending an army to kill a few mice just makes the US look foolish and weak. Been there, done that.

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And that has exactly what to do with MMC's comment about "US Interests" in the region.
    All you need do is look at the first three words in your post I was referring to.

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Frantz Fanon View Post
    It's not a branch of the Muslim faith either.
    Actually it is, unless you are making the claim that all Muslims are inspired by the Koran to murder unbelievers. The Quran's Verses of Violence

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Frantz Fanon View Post
    We've moved on to the rhetorical question part of the show apparently.

    If you are a Muslim you are not murdering innocent people despite all the neat little internet memes are pimping these days.
    Well I'm pleased to hear you're a member of the more peaceful branch of Islam. Sort of like the New Testament Christian but without the New part.

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Frantz Fanon View Post
    We've moved on to the rhetorical question part of the show apparently.

    If you are a Muslim you are not murdering innocent people despite all the neat little internet memes are pimping these days.
    define "innocent"...

    because Im not buying it... what you are saying is Muslims are ok with others in society being "dhimmis" and second class...

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