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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I would prefer an emphasis on prevention, don't you know. When something's not working, stop repeating it over and over and over! You know what "they" say about that.


    What I know, is you must first identify the problem correctly if you want to find a solution. pretending this is not an islamic terrorist issue, is a mistake.


    arguing "derp, but but CHRISTIANS!!!!!!" is also not helpful.


    IF these are fringe muslims, why them are seemingly well to do, stable muslims joining them? (see my other thread)
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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    It's a stupid red herring. Why are we incapable of talking about the coming storm?
    Because it's the same "coming storm" they pimped in the "Domino Theory" and the "Soviet takeover" of Central America. Don't believe the hype, it's a sequel.

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin' Grant. Chris Matthews and now even, the Mister I wear Brown, Ed Schultz is taking BO peep to task over his concepts on ISIS.

    How many more on the left have to turn against BO peep and start calling him and his lost sheep.....out? Time to put the Mopes in that real spot light. Including any in the MS media still carrying BO's water.
    Apart from the most abject bootlickers most people with some political knowledge must eventually come to realize what's going on here. They must also consider turning on Obama now in order to present Hillary as the unObama later.

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    What I know, is you must first identify the problem correctly if you want to find a solution. pretending this is not an islamic terrorist issue, is a mistake.


    arguing "derp, but but CHRISTIANS!!!!!!" is also not helpful.


    IF these are fringe muslims, why them are seemingly well to do, stable muslims joining them? (see my other thread)
    Lol! I've been identifying the problem since I've been posting at DP. And long before. Btw, our own government NIE (yes, the one you folks need to ignore) has identified the problem as well. As have other heads of state, presidential contenders, historians, educators, think tanks like the Council on Foreign relations, constitutional and international law attorneys, the UN................................and you STILL won't ****ing listen!
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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Lol! I've been identifying the problem since I've been posting at DP. And long before. Btw, our own government NIE (yes, the one you folks need to ignore) has identified the problem as well. As have other heads of state, presidential contenders, historians, educators, think tanks like the Council on Foreign relations, constitutional and international law attorneys, the UN................................and you STILL won't ****ing listen!


    I am unaware of any of your posts, sorry.


    What's the problem then.
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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I would prefer an emphasis on prevention, don't you know. When something's not working, stop repeating it over and over and over! You know what "they" say about that.
    Prevention of what Monte? Are you stating that US forces Intel or Other should not counter those that try and affect our interests? That they aren't suppose to work with other allies involved in Foreign Policy?

    That the US FP should be based on never using violence and walking with Halos over our heads and Wings off our shoulders.

    Do you think you could ever ensure the Physical safety of the US......with your uhm lacking strategy in holding a country status as a Major Power to be reckoned with? Hows your Emphasis with that, huh? As With all your talk about the US, we would be nothing more than just a paperweight. A mere paper Tiger.

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Frantz Fanon View Post
    Because it's the same "coming storm" they pimped in the "Domino Theory" and the "Soviet takeover" of Central America. Don't believe the hype, it's a sequel.

    So there is no ISIS, and they are not moving towards a pan-arabic caliphate?
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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Let's continue to ignore the FACT that the Bush administration expunged the language of Islamic extremism, jihad and Muslim Holy War that the right is insisting Obama use. Because it was learned that such usage was counterproductive and had the unintended consequence of legitimising terrorism.
    Has his refusal to say what everyone knows it to be been effective in countering Islamic terrorism?

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Right, perhaps you can talk about the topic, not your prejudices.
    I've done just that, it was your choice to focus on the emoticon.

    I will be more specific. Bush and Obama are self-professed Christians. Both are responsible, though will not be held accountable, for war crimes against Iraqi and Afghani civilians. Both carried out an illegal program of torture. Both are responsible for the deaths of thousands of unarmed civilians and millions of refugees as a result of their foreign policy.

    The invasion and occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan by Bush and Obama meet the definition of terrorism.

    Title 18 of the United States Code (regarding criminal acts and criminal procedure) defines international terrorism as:

    (1) [T]he term 'international terrorism' means activities that —

    (A) involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or of any State;
    (B) appear to be intended —
    (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
    (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
    (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
    (C) occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the United States, or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to intimidate or coerce, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum".[54]

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    Re: Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Prevention of what Monte? Are you stating that US forces Intel or Other should not counter those that try and affect our interests? That they are suppose to work with other allies involved in Foreign Policy?

    That the US FP should be based on never using violence and walking with Halos over our heads and Wings off our shoulders.

    Do you think you could ever ensure the Physical safety of the US......with your uhm lacking strategy in holding a country status as a Major Power to be reckoned with?
    Stop asking me the same god damn question over and over and over again. Do not execute foreign policy in the Middle East that emboldens and encourages the growth of Islamic extremism, and makes America less safe as our NIE concluded about our invasion and occupation of Iraq particularly, and our policies of the "war on terror" generally. WHAT PART OF THIS CONFUSES YOU!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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