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    Re: Libya’s Islamist militia strike from the sky

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Your really are naive if you believe that tripe you're peddling that world leaders trust each other.
    So your assertion is that world leaders never trusted each other... are you going to go further and argue that the US has always backed out of its treaties? I mean, your world view is broken but IO never realized it was THIS broken.
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    Re: Libya’s Islamist militia strike from the sky

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    So your assertion is that world leaders never trusted each other... are you going to go further and argue that the US has always backed out of its treaties? I mean, your world view is broken but IO never realized it was THIS broken.
    If they trusted each other, treaty contracts wouldn't be SIGNED.
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    Re: Libya’s Islamist militia strike from the sky

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    If they trusted each other, treaty contracts wouldn't be SIGNED.
    Are you for real?
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    Re: Libya’s Islamist militia strike from the sky

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    If they trusted each other, treaty contracts wouldn't be SIGNED.

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    Re: Libya’s Islamist militia strike from the sky

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Then according to your logic the Islamic State has existed since the 5th century, post Muhammad's death.
    Um...no, LOL. ISIS has changed its name multiple times, but the organization itself has been in existence since the 90s. And I hope you don't honestly think that ISIS is the only radical Islamist group we've ever fought.

    Yes I support calling an enemy by their name - don't care if that legitimizes them or not. If they are Islamic Terrorists - that's what you call them. If they are Neo-Nazi's that's what you call them.
    So you don't really care whether or not our statements increase ISIS' support or credibility and therefore actually harm us strategically - you just want to be able to **** on Obama based on your fantasy of him not being ballsy enough to see ISIS as an enemy.
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    Re: Libya’s Islamist militia strike from the sky

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Um...no, LOL.
    Well factually, it did. You can look it up.
    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    ISIS has changed its name multiple times, but the organization itself has been in existence since the 90s. And I hope you don't honestly think that ISIS is the only radical Islamist group we've ever fought.
    I guess that depends on one's definition of radical - you mean radical like the Taliban of whom we traded 5 of their top ranking members for Bo Bergdahl or do you mean radical as in Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, who was caught on US soil or are we talking about Adam Yahiye Gadahn who fights America with propaganda from Al Qaeda?


    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    So you don't really care whether or not our statements increase ISIS' support or credibility and therefore actually harm us strategically - you just want to be able to **** on Obama based on your fantasy of him not being ballsy enough to see ISIS as an enemy.
    No, I don't care. TRE's are better for military personnel whether on the ground or in the air.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Libya’s Islamist militia strike from the sky

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Pretty astounding argument, isn't it?
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    Re: Libya’s Islamist militia strike from the sky

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Um...no, LOL. ISIS has changed its name multiple times, but the organization itself has been in existence since the 90s. And I hope you don't honestly think that ISIS is the only radical Islamist group we've ever fought.

    So you don't really care whether or not our statements increase ISIS' support or credibility and therefore actually harm us strategically - you just want to be able to **** on Obama based on your fantasy of him not being ballsy enough to see ISIS as an enemy.
    Nothing empowers ISIS more than leaving them alone. Nothing attracts followers faster than not blowing them to bits.

    When we ignored the Syrian civil war and abandoned the Iraqi army we did everything necessary to allow ISIS to prosper. I am being kind when I chalk it up to abject stupidity on the part of the White House.
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    Re: Libya’s Islamist militia strike from the sky

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Treaties can be renegotiated, they can be obsoleted. Backing out doesn't necessitate wrong doing. But my point of course is that men aren't angels, and as such we all sign contacts, borrow money, form partnerships, etc. none of which are done on handshake deals, and often times collaterals are collected, liens are imposed, etc, because men cannot be trusted. World leaders, in an arena where the stakes are hugely higher, cannot be and are not trusted. We even spy on our friends remember. So yes, the notion that we "trust" our friends and allies deserves that emoticon.
    Last edited by Montecresto; 02-25-15 at 11:20 AM.
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    Re: Libya’s Islamist militia strike from the sky

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Pretty astounding argument, isn't it?
    When I hear these things, my first suspicion is that he knows better.

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