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    Re: Libya’s Islamist militia strike from the sky

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    You may call it what you wish j, but the caliph, that the current proprietors are enforcing, IS NOT NEW, and has had its moments in time past.
    Educate yourself please on the goals of ISIS and how they plan to bring about this caliphate.

    Why do you continue to deny that the Obama administration has facilitated and enabled the recent incarnation, hmm?
    Is this a Freudian slip?
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    Re: Libya’s Islamist militia strike from the sky

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    Educate yourself please on the goals of ISIS and how they plan to bring about this caliphate.



    Is this a Freudian slip?
    Two things jmo, One, you have no clue what the caliphate is, so keep quite about it, and Two, you don't understand what the Bush nor the Obama administration have done to diminish American standing in global politics. So, stop talking about it, hear?
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    Re: Libya’s Islamist militia strike from the sky

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Two things jmo, One, you have no clue what the caliphate is, so keep quite about it, and Two, you don't understand what the Bush nor the Obama administration have done to diminish American standing in global politics. So, stop talking about it, hear?
    He doesn't have to keep quite about anything.
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    Re: Libya’s Islamist militia strike from the sky

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    He doesn't have to keep quite about anything.
    Oh, and you're even worse.
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    Re: Libya’s Islamist militia strike from the sky

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    Oh, and you're even worse.
    What is with you? You have been quite irritable lately.

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    Re: Libya’s Islamist militia strike from the sky

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Two things jmo, One, you have no clue what the caliphate is, so keep quite about it, and Two, you don't understand what the Bush nor the Obama administration have done to diminish American standing in global politics. So, stop talking about it, hear?
    Two things Mon, One, I don't think you know anything about the Caliphate as seen by ISIS so educate yourself, and Two, I am quite aware of how diminished America's standing is, but that is what happens when you ignore your countries treaties with allies and court your enemies. No leader in the world save maybe Iran has any reason to trust that Obama will do what he says he will do. He is a lying sack of dung to everyone from the Clinton to the Polish government to Ukraine. THAT is how the US lost standing. It's one thing to be a dick to a evil dictator, it's another to f*** your allies over.

    Why do you think the Iraqis are meeting with George W Bush about ISIS?
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    Re: Libya’s Islamist militia strike from the sky

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Two things Mon, One, I don't think you know anything about the Caliphate as seen by ISIS so educate yourself, and Two, I am quite aware of how diminished America's standing is, but that is what happens when you ignore your countries treaties with allies and court your enemies. No leader in the world save maybe Iran has any reason to trust that Obama will do what he says he will do. He is a lying sack of dung to everyone from the Clinton to the Polish government to Ukraine. THAT is how the US lost standing. It's one thing to be a dick to a evil dictator, it's another to f*** your allies over.

    Why do you think the Iraqis are meeting with George W Bush about ISIS?
    Well, to the last question first, because he removed a secular government and replaced it with a religious Shia government. Makes perfect sense that they might want to appeal to him. To your second point, yes, America has been courting its "stated" enemies. But you confuse friend and foe! To your third point, it's funny that you think that world leaders "trust" each other. And fourth, dictators are a historic US asset, and either you are naive to that, or just don't give a ****, not sure which.
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    Re: Libya’s Islamist militia strike from the sky

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You may call it what you wish j, but the caliph, that the current proprietors are enforcing, IS NOT NEW, and has had its moments in time past. Why do you continue to deny that the Obama administration has facilitated and enabled the recent incarnation, hmm?


    A caliphate (Arabic: خِلافة‎ khilāfa) is a form of Islamic government led by a caliph (Arabic: خَليفة‎ khalīfah pronunciation )—a person considered a political and religious successor to the prophet Muhammad and a leader of the entire Muslim community.[1] The Rashidun caliphs, who directly succeeded Muhammad as leaders of the Muslim community, were chosen through shura, a process of community consultation which some consider an early form of Islamic democracy.[2] During the history of Islam after the Rashidun period, many Muslim states, almost all of them hereditary monarchies, have claimed to be caliphates.[1]
    But this isn't any normal Caliphate that they believe they are establishing. Keep reading, you might learn something.

    In fact, go read the article "What ISIS Really Wants" I posted over at the Middle East subforum. Unfortunately it was printed in the Atlantic so you can't claim you don't need to read it because it is Right Wing propaganda.
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    Re: Libya’s Islamist militia strike from the sky

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well, to the last question first, because he removed a secular government and replaced it with a religious Shia government.
    The "secular government" was as much Sunni as the current "secular government" is Shia. You are woefully ignorant.

    Makes perfect sense that they might want to appeal to him. To your second point, yes, America has been courting its "stated" enemies. But you confuse friend and foe!
    So screwing over Poland and Ukraine to court Russia... who is the foe there? Courting Iran and screwing Israel, who is the enemy?

    To your third point, it's funny that you think that world leaders "trust" each other. And fourth, dictators are a historic US asset, and either you are naive to that, or just don't give a ****, not sure which.
    Yes, there was a time when US allies trusted the US. Obama has ended all of that. Hopefully Obama's replacement will be able to heal some of Obama's damage.
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    Re: Libya’s Islamist militia strike from the sky

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    The "secular government" was as much Sunni as the current "secular government" is Shia. You are woefully ignorant.



    So screwing over Poland and Ukraine to court Russia... who is the foe there? Courting Iran and screwing Israel, who is the enemy?



    Yes, there was a time when US allies trusted the US. Obama has ended all of that. Hopefully Obama's replacement will be able to heal some of Obama's damage.
    Your really are naive if you believe that tripe you're peddling that world leaders trust each other.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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