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    Re: ISIS reportedly burns 45 people alive

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    No you can save all your dishonesty BS. 40 years brought us up to BO peep and he has increased the threat vastly. All due to his misunderstanding and vision of reality and the world. I know that's hard for you to figure out in the here and now. But that's just the way it is.
    As I said, you're part of the problem, and along with the rest of the partisans will make sure that things only get worse.
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    Re: ISIS reportedly burns 45 people alive

    link to the story about ISIS harvesting organs:

    ISIS might be harvesting organs, Iraqi ambassador tells UN, amid reports of more hostages being burned alive

    A top Iraqi diplomat told world leaders that ISIS is harvesting the organs of its victims to fund it murderous operations, the latest charge of barbarity in a list that already includes mass beheadings, burning people alive, crucifying children and throwing people off of buildings.
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    Re: ISIS reportedly burns 45 people alive

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Yes, so have I.

    And, supporting the forces fighting ISIS is the thing to do.

    Now, let's ask ourselves: Does ISIS want the US to fight them directly? If so, why?

    ISIS wants to fight everybody not just us......they declared War on Rome first outside of the ME. Italy, Russia, France, Britain, Germany and a few others they named. Plus they definitely want to fight and kill Shia.

    They declared on us and our way of life. Already have killed our people and are constantly trying to do so.

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    Re: ISIS reportedly burns 45 people alive

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    ISIS wants to fight everybody not just us......they declared War on Rome first outside of the ME. Italy, Russia, France, Britain, Germany and a few others they named. Plus they definitely want to fight and kill Shia.

    They declared on us and our way of life. Already have killed our people and are constantly trying to do so.
    Right, and they're saying those things, why again? Do they really think they can take on the entire rest of the world and win?

    or do they have a different agenda?
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    Re: ISIS reportedly burns 45 people alive

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    As I said, you're part of the problem, and along with the rest of the partisans will make sure that things only get worse.
    Well its not like you are any solution or even have one.....as you tend to avoid talking about when others start chaos. Only look to blame the US. For everything since its beginning.

    Like you did with Russia.....knowin Putin was in the wrong. Who did you blame.....the US. Who did you blame for Iran.....the US. Iraq the US. Japan and WWII the US.

    No talk from Monte about what the sponsors of terrorism are doing and giving them any credit. Just back to your usual.....blame the US. Oh and not much talk from Monte and about what the Saud is doing. Especially with you being there and all, huh?

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    Re: ISIS reportedly burns 45 people alive

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Right, and they're saying those things, why again? Do they really think they can take on the entire rest of the world and win?

    or do they have a different agenda?
    If you read what they want.....they think it will fulfill their prophecy. Even if they are not the power structure in the end.




    We have misunderstood the nature of the Islamic State in at least two ways. First, we tend to see jihadism as monolithic, and to apply the logic of al‑Qaeda to an organization that has decisively eclipsed it. The Islamic State supporters I spoke with still refer to Osama bin Laden as “Sheikh Osama,” a title of honor. But jihadism has evolved since al-Qaeda’s heyday, from about 1998 to 2003, and many jihadists disdain the group’s priorities and current leadership.

    We are misled in a second way, by a well-intentioned but dishonest campaign to deny the Islamic State’s medieval religious nature. Peter Bergen, who produced the first interview with bin Laden in 1997, titled his first book Holy War, Inc. in part to acknowledge bin Laden as a creature of the modern secular world. Bin Laden corporatized terror and franchised it out. He requested specific political concessions, such as the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Saudi Arabia. His foot soldiers navigated the modern world confidently. On Mohammad Atta’s last full day of life, he shopped at Walmart and ate dinner at Pizza Hut.....snip~

    What ISIS Really Wants - The Atlantic

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    Re: ISIS reportedly burns 45 people alive

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    If you read what they want.....they think it will fulfill their prophecy. Even if they are not the power structure in the end.




    We have misunderstood the nature of the Islamic State in at least two ways. First, we tend to see jihadism as monolithic, and to apply the logic of al‑Qaeda to an organization that has decisively eclipsed it. The Islamic State supporters I spoke with still refer to Osama bin Laden as “Sheikh Osama,” a title of honor. But jihadism has evolved since al-Qaeda’s heyday, from about 1998 to 2003, and many jihadists disdain the group’s priorities and current leadership.

    We are misled in a second way, by a well-intentioned but dishonest campaign to deny the Islamic State’s medieval religious nature. Peter Bergen, who produced the first interview with bin Laden in 1997, titled his first book Holy War, Inc. in part to acknowledge bin Laden as a creature of the modern secular world. Bin Laden corporatized terror and franchised it out. He requested specific political concessions, such as the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Saudi Arabia. His foot soldiers navigated the modern world confidently. On Mohammad Atta’s last full day of life, he shopped at Walmart and ate dinner at Pizza Hut.....snip~

    What ISIS Really Wants - The Atlantic
    There is a temptation to rehearse this observation—that jihadists are modern secular people, with modern political concerns, wearing medieval religious disguise—and make it fit the Islamic State. In fact, much of what the group does looks nonsensical except in light of a sincere, carefully considered commitment to returning civilization to a seventh-century legal environment, and ultimately to bringing about the apocalypse.
    They think they can bring about the apocalypse, and the return of the 12th. Imam. That is their real goal. Engaging the west in battle is a part of that plan.
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    Re: ISIS reportedly burns 45 people alive

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Right, and they're saying those things, why again? Do they really think they can take on the entire rest of the world and win?

    or do they have a different agenda?
    Or do they use it as a recruiting tool to demonstrate their toughness and ambition?

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    Re: ISIS reportedly burns 45 people alive

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    They think they can bring about the apocalypse, and the return of the 12th. Imam. That is their real goal. Engaging the west in battle is a part of that plan.
    Yeah and it correlates with the 12vers of Iran/Shia and their vision that the government they have now.....will be the one that takes the reins from the Sunni. As this was what the Sunni would do.




    The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic. Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Middle East and Europe. But the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam.

    Virtually every major decision and law promulgated by the Islamic State adheres to what it calls, in its press and pronouncements, and on its billboards, license plates, stationery, and coins, “the Prophetic methodology,” which means following the prophecy and example of Muhammad, in punctilious detail. Muslims can reject the Islamic State; nearly all do. But pretending that it isn’t actually a religious, millenarian group, with theology that must be understood to be combatted, has already led the United States to underestimate it and back foolish schemes to counter it. We’ll need to get acquainted with the Islamic State’s intellectual genealogy if we are to react in a way that will not strengthen it, but instead help it self-immolate in its own excessive zeal......snip~

    What ISIS Really Wants - The Atlantic

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    Re: ISIS reportedly burns 45 people alive

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    They think they can bring about the apocalypse, and the return of the 12th. Imam. That is their real goal. Engaging the west in battle is a part of that plan.
    We should have been thinking how the West could and should respond. But a problem is that 'the west' of today is not the west of a couple of generations ago. This generation has no idea of real bad guys, real war, or real death and rapes to real people. They only see it on movies or video games and none of it is genuinely real to them.

    The Islamists have a better grip on reality and what it takes to fight a Superpower and their far better equipped military opponents. The stumbling western giants just bump into each, dazed and confused and wait for the next attack.

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