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    Re: ISIS reportedly burns 45 people alive

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    So now we're all Christians? I thought we weren't a Christian nation.
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    Re: ISIS reportedly burns 45 people alive

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Do you really think that the beheadings were unique? ISIS has been doing that to their captives and others for many many months.. it is nothing new. But they are using non-Muslims in a PR campaign to provoke the west in doing something stupid like sending in troops. They want a religious war between Christians and Muslims, and nothing helps that along as Christian soldiers on the ground fighting so called Muslims.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I don't see how anyone objectively observing the ISIS situation can't understand this. They are clearly going after targets that will tug at American and European heartstrings. They desperately want a war with the West.

    Of course, all the hacks can see is "DURRR OBAMA WEAK" for not turning the entire ME into a crater, but whatever. They should (and thankfully are) being ignored.
    Exactly. While I'm doing some serious head scratching about the Obama administration's reluctance to call a spade a spade, they are doing the right thing by not responding to ISIS' provocations. As far as I'm concerned the West should not be sending in ground troops under the current circumstances. That is the job of the surrounding nations. If they can't be bothered to do so, that is their problem, not ours. Right now it seems to me that they aren't too bothered with ISIS either. Air strikes are as far as everyone is willing to go.
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    Re: ISIS reportedly burns 45 people alive

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin Blue State. To late now.....ISIS started an offensive last night. Around 15-18hrs ago. They are moving towards Irbil. The Kurds Capital.....if they break thru the Kurds line. There is nothing in between them and our people. That's where we have a lot of our people. Including those we have moved around from inside Iraq.

    The Kurds have already started calling back forces they had moving towards Mosul.

    One thing is for certain.....if they break thru and end up killing a bunch of Americans. BO peep's term won't last the next 2 years.
    Morning.

    The proximity of Al-Asad to Baghdad is only a half an hour. There is not much in between the two. There use to be a basic training base in between the two, but I am not sure if that is still there.
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    Re: ISIS reportedly burns 45 people alive

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Do you really think that the beheadings were unique? ISIS has been doing that to their captives and others for many many months.. it is nothing new. But they are using non-Muslims in a PR campaign to provoke the west in doing something stupid like sending in troops. They want a religious war between Christians and Muslims, and nothing helps that along as Christian soldiers on the ground fighting so called Muslims.


    Here you go Pete. This will help you out some concerning ISIS and your uhm.... uh yeah concerns. Make note why there is even a problem for all those that can't figure what they are about.


    What ISIS Really Wants - The Atlantic

    Oh, and we even have a thread up on it. Wouldn't want any to say they missed out on the knowing.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1064326357

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    Re: ISIS reportedly burns 45 people alive

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Morning.

    The proximity of Al-Asad to Baghdad is only a half an hour. There is not much in between the two. There use to be a basic training base in between the two, but I am not sure if that is still there.
    About 5 hrs ago.....the Iraqis reported that ISIS was moving on Erbil from several different directions. The Kurds also reported they were coming at them in different directions. The Kurds have engaged and they said our Air Power couldn't be used due to how close both are in the fighting.

    This is a military offensive to.....some think to force the diverting of forces away from Mosul.




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    Re: ISIS reportedly burns 45 people alive

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    About 5 hrs ago.....the Iraqis reported that ISIS was moving on Erbil from several different directions. The Kurds also reported they were coming at them in different directions. The Kurds have engaged and they said our Air Power couldn't be used due to how close both are in the fighting.

    This is a military offensive to.....some think to force the diverting of forces away from Mosul.



    That is pretty good info. Where are you getting the updates?
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    Re: ISIS reportedly burns 45 people alive

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Here you go Pete. This will help you out some concerning ISIS and your uhm.... uh yeah concerns. Make note why there is even a problem for all those that can't figure what they are about.


    What ISIS Really Wants - The Atlantic

    Oh, and we even have a thread up on it. Wouldn't want any to say they missed out on the knowing.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1064326357
    I know fully well what ISIS wants.. power and more power. It has absolutely nothing to do with religion but the ability to dominate others. That is why they are raping and murdering across the middle east, to sow fear in the population because fear is the best way to control populations.

    But lets look at the things that ISIS does.

    Rape.. why? Because raping is much easier than getting a real woman and convincing them to marry you. What is the type of ISIS fighter, especially from the west? Isolated, lonely impressionable young men. And as a bonus, in this culture (and our own 100+ years ago), rape was considered sinful to the rape victim and they became unclean and their children were considered unclean as well by the clan of which the mother was. It was a way to dilute and minimize the growth of opposition clans. Why the hell do you think that women were often targeted and protected fiercely during wars? .. they make new warriors and if you can prevent that and at the same time shame the opposition.. win win.

    Slavery.. why? Cheaper, and if some happen to die then they can always be replaced.

    Mass executions.. why? Easiest way to get rid of political opponents and their followers. This is how it has been done for millenniums across the face of the planet. In China, when an kingdom fell, the soldiers were executed along with all the political class.. so they could not oppose the new government. Why did the Bolsheveks kill the Czar and his family? To make sure that they would not return. The list goes on.

    And then there is the goodie but old one.. the ability of human beings to like inflicting pain on others for pleasure. There is a lot of that going on in the ranks if ISIS... they simply like it... from burning ants or torturing animals as a kid to burning alive a person.. it does not take much to go all the way.

    If you think that ISIS is religious.. then you dont understand the situation. You do realize that iPhones are being sold in the crate wise to ISIS controlled areas right along with tons of other luxuaries like Redbull and what not.
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    Re: ISIS reportedly burns 45 people alive

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    That is pretty good info. Where are you getting the updates?
    Right now from Radio, CNN, and a few overseas sources. A few Israeli and Al J.

    Last I have is the Kurds pushed back about an hour ago South of Erbil. From the Lebanon Daily Star.


    Kurdish peshmerga forces have repulsed a major attack by ISIS southwest of Iraqi Kurdistan's capital Irbil, officials said Wednesday. "The attack which was launched at 8:00 p.m. was foiled. It lasted four hours and we killed 34 IS[ISIS] members," Sirwan Barzani, the local peshmerga commander, told AFP.

    He said around 300 jihadis had attacked the villages of Sultan Abdallah and Tal al-Rim, between the towns of Gweyr and Makhmur, an area about 40 kilometers southwest of Irbil. "Daesh [ISIS] was not able to use heavy military vehicles or car bombs due to trenches dug out by peshmerga on the front lines," said Barzani, also the nephew of Kurdish leader Massud Barzani.....snip~


    - See more at: Kurdish forces repulse ISIS attack south of Irbil | News , Middle East | THE DAILY STAR

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    Re: ISIS reportedly burns 45 people alive

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Eh? making no sense as usual I see.
    Making excuses for the terrorists as usual, I see.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: ISIS reportedly burns 45 people alive

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    I know fully well what ISIS wants.. power and more power. It has absolutely nothing to do with religion but the ability to dominate others. That is why they are raping and murdering across the middle east, to sow fear in the population because fear is the best way to control populations.

    But lets look at the things that ISIS does.

    Rape.. why? Because raping is much easier than getting a real woman and convincing them to marry you. What is the type of ISIS fighter, especially from the west? Isolated, lonely impressionable young men. And as a bonus, in this culture (and our own 100+ years ago), rape was considered sinful to the rape victim and they became unclean and their children were considered unclean as well by the clan of which the mother was. It was a way to dilute and minimize the growth of opposition clans. Why the hell do you think that women were often targeted and protected fiercely during wars? .. they make new warriors and if you can prevent that and at the same time shame the opposition.. win win.

    Slavery.. why? Cheaper, and if some happen to die then they can always be replaced.

    Mass executions.. why? Easiest way to get rid of political opponents and their followers. This is how it has been done for millenniums across the face of the planet. In China, when an kingdom fell, the soldiers were executed along with all the political class.. so they could not oppose the new government. Why did the Bolsheveks kill the Czar and his family? To make sure that they would not return. The list goes on.

    And then there is the goodie but old one.. the ability of human beings to like inflicting pain on others for pleasure. There is a lot of that going on in the ranks if ISIS... they simply like it... from burning ants or torturing animals as a kid to burning alive a person.. it does not take much to go all the way.

    If you think that ISIS is religious.. then you dont understand the situation. You do realize that iPhones are being sold in the crate wise to ISIS controlled areas right along with tons of other luxuaries like Redbull and what not.
    Sounds to me like they all need killin'.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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