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Americans Increasingly See Russia as Threat, Top U.S. Enemy

Let us not forget Milosevic also now?

How could I forget, the genocidal monster and devout Russian ally Milosevic, of course Stalin was Hitlers greatest ally as well under the secret protocol of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact which divided eastern Europe amongst the Soviet Union and the Third Reich culminating in the joint Reich-Soviet invasion of Poland, as well as, Russian fuel and wheat feeding Hitlers war machine. War guilt is shared equally amongst Germany and Russia.
 
It is so amazing that I cannot believe he is an American. What? Anyone can claim to be from another country!

Payed Russian troll most likely. I've seen actual Russian who were less sycophantic members of Putin's cult of personality.
 
As I pointed out, who was keeping track of the numbers of people killed by the British empire during the dark days of their colonisation of the WORLD!!!!?????

Historians would have kept track of massacres especially the historians of the people who were being massacred, and there are archaeological ways in which these facts can be ascertained, for example we know that the Islamic invasions of the Indian subcontinent resulted in the deaths of tens of millions of Hindus and Buddhists. But hey when you're busy making completely bull**** made up claims right and left who has time to attempt to provide some actual evidence. :roll:
 
Regardless of your justification of those two bombings, of civilian targets. No WW11 despot killed as many people in the moments that those two bombs did. And if you can justify those travesties, then I suppose anybody can justify anything anytime.

The bombing of cities during WW2 was standard practice on both sides your assertion that dropping two bombs on the aggressor state to end the bloodiest war in history is akin to industrialized genocide and atrocities committed by the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and Imperial Japan is the worst kind of apologetics and moral equivocation.
 
Particularly loaning an unstable Argentine government Military jets.... The guys needs to learn some hard truths and these " sanctions" are not working. Putin tested the water back in 2008 with Georgia and now he is laughing in Nato's face.

He's laughing all the way to the bread lines.
 
Thats right ! See you can get it when you really try ! :thumbs:

Which is to my point over the justification of the use of nuclear weapons on two civilian targets. Something in your hypocritical world view would be consider an act of terror were it done by Russia, China, Iran, etc.
 
Historians would have kept track of massacres especially the historians of the people who were being massacred, and there are archaeological ways in which these facts can be ascertained, for example we know that the Islamic invasions of the Indian subcontinent resulted in the deaths of tens of millions of Hindus and Buddhists. But hey when you're busy making completely bull**** made up claims right and left who has time to attempt to provide some actual evidence. :roll:

Here's some documentation for you to chew on.


Deny the British empire's crimes? No, we ignore them | George Monbiot | Comment is free | The Guardian
 
The bombing of cities during WW2 was standard practice on both sides your assertion that dropping two bombs on the aggressor state to end the bloodiest war in history is akin to industrialized genocide and atrocities committed by the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and Imperial Japan is the worst kind of apologetics and moral equivocation.

"Standard procedure", nice dismissal of crimes against humanity. And another justification of it when it suits your interest.
 
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lmfao, Ramsey Clark was Milosevic's defense attorney!!! And he didn't just believe that everyone is entitled to representation either, he was a Milosevic supporter who at the genocidal maniacs funeral declared that "history will prove Milosevic right".

Ramsey Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ramsey Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The International Action Center (IAC) is an activist group founded in 1992 by former United States Attorney General Ramsey Clark. It supports anti-imperialist movements around the world, and opposes U.S. military intervention in all circumstances.

The International Action Center (IAC) is an activist group founded in 1992 by former United States Attorney General Ramsey Clark. It supports anti-imperialist movements around the world, and opposes U.S. military intervention in all circumstances.

The International Action Center (IAC) is an activist group founded in 1992 by former United States Attorney General Ramsey Clark. It supports anti-imperialist movements around the world, and opposes U.S. military intervention in all circumstances.
 

Interesting article, I never denied that the British Empire ever engaged in war crimes I'm Irish actually so no quite well, however, nothing within that article is even remotely on par with the crimes of Stalin, Hitler, and Mao, over the course of hundreds of years of the British Empire the death toll is not even a drop in the bucket compared to them and nothing in that article compares to industrialized genocide.
 
The International Action Center (IAC) is an activist group founded in 1992 by former United States Attorney General Ramsey Clark. It supports anti-imperialist movements around the world, and opposes U.S. military intervention in all circumstances.

I know, and Ramsey Clark later became a defense attorney and adamant supporter of Slobodan Milosevic so not exactly an unbiased source, you do realize that Serbia under Milosovic was found guilty by the ICJ of genocide right? And Clark states that "history will prove Milosevic right."
 
"Standard procedure", nice dismissal of crimes against humanity. And another justification of it when it suits your interest.

Bombing cities was not a war crime during WW2, again the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki actually saved lives, another dismissal of the facts I presented because they do not conform to your "America is evil" narrative.
 
Which is to my point over the justification of the use of nuclear weapons on two civilian targets. Something in your hypocritical world view would be consider an act of terror were it done by Russia, China, Iran, etc.

It saved far more lives than it took ergo (terrible though it was) it served the greater good. I'm certain you understand this concept but in your rush to condemn the US at any and every turn you are trying to pretend that you do not and are simply using the atomic attacks as another expedient conduit for doing so.
 
Interesting article, I never denied that the British Empire ever engaged in war crimes I'm Irish actually so no quite well, however, nothing within that article is even remotely on par with the crimes of Stalin, Hitler, and Mao, over the course of hundreds of years of the British Empire the death toll is not even a drop in the bucket compared to them and nothing in that article compares to industrialized genocide.

I've never mentioned Stalin or Mao in any of my posts. And we've diverted away from my original point that with the UK's history and ambitions of world dominance, colonisation of people's and territories against there will, exploitation of resources and killing of so many, I don't consider that they have any credibility condemning Russia's tiny by comparison operations in Ukraine.
 
I've never mentioned Stalin or Mao in any of my posts. And we've diverted away from my original point that with the UK's history and ambitions of world dominance, colonisation of people's and territories against there will, exploitation of resources and killing of so many, I don't consider that they have any credibility condemning Russia's tiny by comparison operations in Ukraine.

Trying to make any comparison of 19th century British moralities to excuse those of Russia in the 21st really is pretty lame, but then I've come to expect that from you in your endless crusade against the West.

Times have changed
 
Trying to make any comparison of 19th century British moralities to excuse those of Russia in the 21st really is pretty lame, but then I've come to expect that from you in your endless crusade against the West.

Times have changed

Two observations. One, you're unaware of the timeframe of British colonialism, and two, you're unaware of the scope and scale of the atrocities that nation committed as it went about by force raping the people's and the lands of the world in its quest for world dominance. Maybe there's three. Your lack of historical knowledge and perspective is hugely a waste of my time.
 
I've never mentioned Stalin or Mao in any of my posts.

Oh please you mentioned Germany, the Soviets, and China as perceived enemies of the US it is clear who you were referring to.

And we've diverted away from my original point that with the UK's history and ambitions of world dominance, colonisation of people's and territories against there will, exploitation of resources and killing of so many, I don't consider that they have any credibility condemning Russia's tiny by comparison operations in Ukraine.

A) If you want to talk about history then historically the crimes of Russia compared to that of the now defunct British Empire are of such a magnitude that they are not just different in scale but different in kind.

B) We are not talking about 5 decades ago we are talking about the here and now, the UK has not annexed territory anytime in recent memory, what Russia did was a war crime on a scale not seen since Saddam's invasion of Kuwait or perhaps Serb's genocide of the Croats, Albanians, and Bosniaks.
 
Oh please you mentioned Germany, the Soviets, and China as perceived enemies of the US it is clear who you were referring to.



A) If you want to talk about history then historically the crimes of Russia compared to that of the now defunct British Empire are of such a magnitude that they are not just different in scale but different in kind.

B) We are not talking about 5 decades ago we are talking about the here and now, the UK has not annexed territory anytime in recent memory, what Russia did was a war crime on a scale not seen since Saddam's invasion of Kuwait or perhaps Serb's genocide of the Croats, Albanians, and Bosniaks.

I will talk about any time period I like. And no kingdom has ever annexed as much territory or oppressed as many people as the United Kingdom. Dominating, and exploiting 3/4 of the world and half a billion people. I really don't care what your take is on that.

We are still a nation locked in denial. If you point out basic facts about the British Empire - that the British deliberately adopted policies that caused as many as 29 million Indians to starve to death in the late 19th century, say - you smack into a wall of incomprehension and rage.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-truth-our-empire-killed-millions-404631.html

How Britain Denies its Holocausts

http://www.monbiot.com/2005/12/27/how-britain-denies-its-holocausts/
 
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Two observations. One, you're unaware of the timeframe of British colonialism, and two, you're unaware of the scope and scale of the atrocities that nation committed as it went about by force raping the people's and the lands of the world in its quest for world dominance. Maybe there's three. Your lack of historical knowledge and perspective is hugely a waste of my time.

What arrogance I'm British yet you are trying to claim you know my history better than I do ! You did the same with DDD. As far as historical knowledge goes I'd be more than happy to do a pop quiz with you any day on any country.

Britain was perhaps one of the most benign and benevolent empires that ever existed leaving knowledge, political systems and infrastructure that benefitted billions in its wake. Thats not to say that no blood was shed nor miscalculations and mistakes happen but it has certainly no moral equivalency with the despotic tyrants of the 20th and 21st century whatsoever. If you had a clue you would know this but by all means get your facts from revisionist opinion pieces that fit your warped worldview instead
 
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The author is some Greek 'activist' who's cracked the code on what REALLY happened with regard to the breakup of Yugoslavia. Hint: It was a grand Western machination.

Aha, you are addressing the references. Well, no surprise about Greeks being pro-Russian.
 
As the separatists living in East Ukraine have a more credible opinion of things there than you do.

What is required is a voice that represents the Ukrainian majority here in DP to tell us how it is there. Then the analogy of me representing historical facts here would have more credibility just like a Ukrainian would have a more valid say about their own country.

Asking only the Russian minorities about what is going on there and leaving it to them having a say about the whole story is biased.
 
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