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    Re: Americans Increasingly See Russia as Threat, Top U.S. Enemy

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Yeah, can't let them threaten business or Jiminy, or anything. And there were those little peccadillos like the Holocaust, Pearl Harbor, Nanking, and the soviet's ruling eastern Europe for fifty years...
    Nor am I denying that some of them were a threat to others.
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    Re: Americans Increasingly See Russia as Threat, Top U.S. Enemy

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Americans Increasingly See Russia as Threat, Top U.S. Enemy



    Not surprising at all. Americans are indeed keeping abreast of Russian military expansionism in Europe and Putin's dishonesty and manipulations.
    Another day, another 'Russia is awful' post/thread from Simpleχity.

    The Crimea had a referendum that overwhelmingly chose to become part of Russia. Same with the Donetsk region.


    And if America had not encouraged the original rebels to overthrow the corrupt but legitimately elected government in Kiev back then, NONE of this would have happened. All these idiots had to do was wait a few months and legally throw out the guy...but no.

    The mess in the Ukraine is more toi do with the rebels that illegally overthrew the government (and the West that backed them to do it) then anything Russia has done.



    And so Russia is backing the rebels. Well duh.

    And what would America do if a region in Mexico overwhelmingly voted to join America but the government in Mexico used it's military to try and stop it by killing it's own people? Do you think America would support the Mexican rebels trying to join America with arms shipments? Again...well duh.

    Russia is no saint and Putin is a pig. But America is staggeringly hypocritical if it thinks Russia is the world's bad guys in terms of running around and bombing people at will. Look in the mirror America (neo-cons in particular). You are FAR more of the cause for world troubles then Russia could ever dream of being.

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    Re: Americans Increasingly See Russia as Threat, Top U.S. Enemy

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    Reminds me of a thread about spying on Germany. Someone posted that we shouldn't spy on our friends and of course someone else came back that they won't always be your friends.
    For example Mossad is behind only China and Russia regarding espionage within the US yet Israel gets more money from the US taxpayer in 'aid' by far than any other nation. Go figure ?

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    Re: Americans Increasingly See Russia as Threat, Top U.S. Enemy

    Americans increasingly don't care about Russia, because the Cold War is over, and no amount of fearmongering by the older generations is going to change that.
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    Re: Americans Increasingly See Russia as Threat, Top U.S. Enemy

    Testimony to the success of the anti Russian propaganda effort in the last year or so...

    Many americans I know are also scared, worried, afraid of ISIS. Orwell was so damn prescient.

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    Re: Americans Increasingly See Russia as Threat, Top U.S. Enemy

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Americans increasingly don't care about Russia
    The February 2015 poll by Gallup strongly suggests otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    because the Cold War is over
    The Cold War was indeed over until Putin decided to militarily invade and illegally annex a neighbor's sovereign territory in 2014. This has not happened in Europe since the end of WWII. If internationally recognized borders are no longer honored and respected, then no nation is secure from a more powerful and/or expansionist-minded neighbor.

    Borders are not "mere suggestions". This tenat is a core principle of international relations and a cornerstone of the UN Charter.


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    Re: Americans Increasingly See Russia as Threat, Top U.S. Enemy

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Americans Increasingly See Russia as Threat, Top U.S. Enemy

    Not surprising at all. Americans are indeed keeping abreast of Russian military expansionism in Europe and Putin's dishonesty and manipulations.
    Who would not.

    Nice to see that we are all in the same page here.
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    Re: Americans Increasingly See Russia as Threat, Top U.S. Enemy

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Oh boy, it's been the Germans and the Japanese and the Soviets and the Vietnamese, and the Chinese, and the Iranians and the Iraqis and the Syrians and the Libyans and........I'm sure I'm leaving somebody out.
    Yes, the Serbs.

    You helped many former Yugoslav countries be liberated from Serbian hegemony. If left unchecked the whole of Yugoslavia might have today been annexed from Russia just like Ukrainian Crimea.
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    Re: Americans Increasingly See Russia as Threat, Top U.S. Enemy

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Another day, another 'Russia is awful' post/thread from Simpleχity.

    The Crimea had a referendum that overwhelmingly chose to become part of Russia. Same with the Donetsk region.

    And if America had not encouraged the original rebels to overthrow the corrupt but legitimately elected government in Kiev back then, NONE of this would have happened. All these idiots had to do was wait a few months and legally throw out the guy...but no.

    The mess in the Ukraine is more toi do with the rebels that illegally overthrew the government (and the West that backed them to do it) then anything Russia has done.

    And so Russia is backing the rebels. Well duh.

    And what would America do if a region in Mexico overwhelmingly voted to join America but the government in Mexico used it's military to try and stop it by killing it's own people? Do you think America would support the Mexican rebels trying to join America with arms shipments? Again...well duh.

    Russia is no saint and Putin is a pig. But America is staggeringly hypocritical if it thinks Russia is the world's bad guys in terms of running around and bombing people at will. Look in the mirror America (neo-cons in particular). You are FAR more of the cause for world troubles then Russia could ever dream of being.
    Ukraine decided to be free from Russian hegemony. It is a decision that preceded the coup in Ukraine. The Ukrainian Crimea referendum is illegally recognized to be so from the UN.

    Basically, Russia continued annexing various countries such as: Chechnya, Northern Georgia, Eastern Ukraine, etc., in a classic medieval conquering the weak style.

    The only exception is that Ukraine aint no Georgia!
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    Re: Americans Increasingly See Russia as Threat, Top U.S. Enemy

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Americans increasingly don't care about Russia, because the Cold War is over, and no amount of fearmongering by the older generations is going to change that.
    Having been to Russia a number of times over the last 15 years I can confirm for you that the Cold war is alive and well there. It never really went away for them. They prefer to fear us rather than work with us sadly. Unscrupulous people like Putin can exploit this historical mistrust to suit their own ends

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