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Isis beheads 21 christians, promises to ‘conquer rome, by allah’s permission

for more:
Libya and Egypt launch air strikes against Isis after militants post beheadings video | World news | The Guardian





So lets talk about the Templars and the Crusades, because dawdling on the past will address this current reality.




"At least 21 Egyptians were kidnapped in two separate incidents in the city of Sirte, Libya in December and January. "




If your are not a muslim and still hanging around where these savages ISIS are, you are an idiot.


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Rev, from what some of our more left-leaning posters are saying, all that apparently does not matter; why? because Ku Klux Klan, and fundamentalist Christians! :roll:


The Moral Equivalency crowd is stretching that rubber band way past original manufacturer specs, no doubt.
 
Rev, from what some of our more left-leaning posters are saying, all that apparently does not matter; why? because Ku Klux Klan, and fundamentalist Christians! :roll:


The Moral Equivalency crowd is stretching that rubber band way past original manufacturer specs, no doubt.



indeed, Crusades, you forgot about the crusades, because back then only christians killed tooo.
 
I wouldn't want to fight the son of a bitches, call me a ***** all day long if you'd like. But I preferred a time when Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad had them contained.

I wonder how they were able to "contain" them, and now they can't. Actually, they seemed to still be contained, and blown up sometimes, while we still had forces in Iraq.
 
Taking Rome are they. Hope that is a metaphor.

Egypt is asking European governments to get involved, he's predicting boatloads of ISIS terrorists floating toward Europe.

What is clear is that exactly everyone is afraid to fight ISIS. Air power only. For this it seems clear that ISIS execution-terrorism is 100% successful as to their goal - to make everyone terrified of actually fighting them directly.

I disagree however putting boots on the ground isn't easy in a country where those who seem for you can just as quickly become your kidnappers.

What I will say is that the ruthlessness to fight and destroy ISIS may only exist in countries not bound by Western, polite conventions of war.
 
What's a few more beheaded Christian's, nothing to see here folks now move along.
 
I wonder how they were able to "contain" them, and now they can't. Actually, they seemed to still be contained, and blown up sometimes, while we still had forces in Iraq.

Well, two are dead, ones dying and the other is terribly weakened.
 
Say what you will about W, he had a vision and at least led. Can't say the same about Obama-unless its that his vision is chaos.

Well on a FP basis, I'll not be disagreeing with you, mostly, there's a couple things in that regard that he gets high points with me. And the same with Bush. He gets a couple high points too, but in the ME, he was as chaotic as Obama, and it's not just my opinion, as pointed out before, foreign policy papers from various groups and an embarrassing leaked NIE during the Bush administration conclude the same. You partisans, both sides, really do use Eveready.
 
Well on a FP basis, I'll not be disagreeing with you, mostly, there's a couple things in that regard that he gets high points with me. And the same with Bush. He gets a couple high points too, but in the ME, he was as chaotic as Obama, and it's not just my opinion, as pointed out before, foreign policy papers from various groups and an embarrassing leaked NIE during the Bush administration conclude the same. You partisans, both sides, really do use Eveready.

Bush had a coherent foreign policy plan, what is Obama foreign policy doctrine?

He's all over the place and even his press secretary (of spin) can't define it.
 
Bush had a coherent foreign policy plan, what is Obama foreign policy doctrine?

He's all over the place and even his press secretary (of spin) can't define it.

I disagree with you on Bush, and already conceded that I'm unimpressed (largely) with Obama's FP.
 
Rev, from what some of our more left-leaning posters are saying, all that apparently does not matter; why? because Ku Klux Klan, and fundamentalist Christians! :roll:


The Moral Equivalency crowd is stretching that rubber band way past original manufacturer specs, no doubt.

Crusades n stuff!!!! What difference does it make!!! :doh
 
Damn it! I failed on the first attempt. Would you kindly explain the meaning of that for me, thanks.

Well, since we had a deal.

I posted some clarifications on post 6 also, but here:

ISIS is beheading and burning people. Among signs that show the degree that they are proud to commit such medieval religious acts can also be shown by the superb quality of their videos. They do not want us to miss even the finest detail of such horrific acts as expressed with the finest/smallest digital pixel that took the colors for blood and fire. This shows that their intent to present what they are doing is sound and considering that they have not been stopping then they may continue.

Each time they behead and burn people from various parts of the world the more they provoke a reprisal from military people from those parts of the world. They did not stated that they will stop, so at one point it reaches the boiling point and countries join to go against these medieval bustards.

The repeated pattern is that ISIS have consistently provoked many countries (i.e., asked for it). Now perhaps they may even get what they were asking for.

Subduing them would be bloody and difficult because in their religiously zombified state they do not care if they die. The reverse actually, they think they will be rewarded with heaven if they die in the battlefield. This may be the reason why they provoke their own demise basically, so as they can at last enjoy brief seconds-minutes of mortification, with images ready from their unconscious to portray images of their desire (i.e., asking for it).

But even then, if they are subdued and controlled, the idea to turn them over to Assad is wrong for he is not any better with his cleansing operations. How about we give the territories over to Iraq instead? They are secular and under the influence, and it may be a rewarding sign for cooperating with us?

In return, Iraq has to recognize our independence though! No more good old relationships with Serbia, they ought to move above such dictatorship and cleansing methodologies as were used in medieval times, and create new relationship with healthier countries such as us and other countries in the world.

Ask me more questions if you did not get me again.
 
for more:
Libya and Egypt launch air strikes against Isis after militants post beheadings video | World news | The Guardian







So lets talk about the Templars and the Crusades, because dawdling on the past will address this current reality.




"At least 21 Egyptians were kidnapped in two separate incidents in the city of Sirte, Libya in December and January. "




If your are not a muslim and still hanging around where these savages ISIS are, you are an idiot.


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I think there might be an undiscovered tribe on the amazon that ISIS hasn't declared war on yet. They have a unique long term diplomatic strategy.
 
Rev, from what some of our more left-leaning posters are saying, all that apparently does not matter; why? because Ku Klux Klan, and fundamentalist Christians! :roll:


The Moral Equivalency crowd is stretching that rubber band way past original manufacturer specs, no doubt.

As if you would want to lift a finger to stop ISIS if they were executing atheists instead
 
As if you would want to lift a finger to stop ISIS if they were executing atheists instead



I've been shot at for my countrymen, I didn't ask to only be shot at only for those who believe in a god. kind of a ****ty thing to say to Goshin.
 
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