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    Fort Carson brigade headed to Kuwait...

    ...for possible showdown with ISIS


    As Congress mulls America's war with the Islamic State terror group, more than 4,000 Fort Carson soldiers prepared Thursday to leave for Kuwait, where they will take over as America's largest ground force in the troubled region.

    The 3rd Brigade Combat Team bid farewell to the post in a ceremony and soon will serve as U.S. Central Command's Reserve force in the Middle East - the first soldiers into battle if a major combat force is used to battle Islamic State fighters.

    The unit is Fort Carson's heaviest force, armed with tanks and Bradley Fighting Vehicles. Many of its soldiers are veterans of one or more of the brigade's four combat tours in Iraq.

    "We're no strangers to deployment," the brigade's commander, Col. Greg Sierra, told a crowd gathered for the ceremony.

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    After the ceremony, Sierra said the brigade's training regimen readied soldiers for a range of missions from humanitarian relief to nonstop combat.

    "We are prepared for any contingency," he said.

    Sierra's soldiers are getting a long weekend with their families before they head out. The colonel gave the families reassurance that if his brigade tangles with Islamic State fighters, the outcome won't be in doubt.

    "In the end, if we do get into fights, we win decisively," he said.

    Fort Carson brigade headed to Kuwait for possible showdown with ISIS
    If you are interested in a history of the Brigade, you can read about them here: Fort Carson | 4th Infantry Division


    So..."no boots on the ground", eh? Sounds like Obama is having a change of heart. Or maybe he's trying to scare ISIS a bit. I don't know, but I don't think those radical Islamists are the type to scare easily.

    In any event, if Obama decides to send these guys into combat, I hope to god he doesn't hold them back. These guys will kick ass and take names if he lets them.
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    Re: Fort Carson brigade headed to Kuwait...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    ...for possible showdown with ISIS




    If you are interested in a history of the Brigade, you can read about them here: Fort Carson | 4th Infantry Division


    So..."no boots on the ground", eh? Sounds like Obama is having a change of heart. Or maybe he's trying to scare ISIS a bit. I don't know, but I don't think those radical Islamists are the type to scare easily.

    In any event, if Obama decides to send these guys into combat, I hope to god he doesn't hold them back. These guys will kick ass and take names if he lets them.
    Sounds more like heavy support operations for convoys and the like. If we were going after them hard, you would see deployments out of Bragg and Benning

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    I sure wish Americans woukd stop the bickering and shooting down the CIC and actually stand behind their president, country and troops. If I was the enemy I would take glee in the constant second guessing and disrespect of our president. It could contribute to their brazen behavior.

    As far as holding them back once they are committed, do you see any precedence for that? Just because he is hesitant to put American lives on the line doesn't mean he won't support them when needed.
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    Re: Fort Carson brigade headed to Kuwait...

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Sounds more like heavy support operations for convoys and the like. If we were going after them hard, you would see deployments out of Bragg and Benning
    The 10th Special Forces are in Fort Carson. May be linked?

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    Re: Fort Carson brigade headed to Kuwait...

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Sounds more like heavy support operations for convoys and the like. If we were going after them hard, you would see deployments out of Bragg and Benning
    Oh???

    And why do you think any Combat Brigade from Bragg or Benning would be more effective than the 3rd ABCT from Carson?

    Believe me, they have the equipment, the training and the experience to do more than protecting convoys.
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    Re: Fort Carson brigade headed to Kuwait...

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    The 10th Special Forces are in Fort Carson. May be linked?
    Doubtful since this is a planned deployment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Oh???

    And why do you think any Combat Brigade from Bragg or Benning would be more effective than the 3rd ABCT from Carson?

    Believe me, they have the equipment, the training and the experience to do more than protecting convoys.
    This is a scheduled deployment that has been in the works for a year. Whether or not they could be effective is not really relevant as to a "... possible showdown with ISIS". I am familiar with Carson. One of my cousins was posted there during both his trips--one OIF and one OEF.

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    Re: Fort Carson brigade headed to Kuwait...

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post

    This is a scheduled deployment that has been in the works for a year. Whether or not they could be effective is not really relevant as to a "... possible showdown with ISIS". I am familiar with Carson. One of my cousins was posted there during both his trips--one OIF and one OEF.
    shrug...

    You haven't explained why a unit from Bragg or Benning would be more effective.


    In regard to how familiar you are with Carson...and about your cousin...that's irrelevant. But if it makes any difference to you, I live across the Interstate from Ft. Carson...I was stationed at Ft. Carson...and I was deployed to the Gulf War while under 4th Infantry Division command. The 4ID combat patch is the last of the five combat patches I earned the right to wear during my military career.
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    Re: Fort Carson brigade headed to Kuwait...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    shrug...

    You haven't explained why a unit from Bragg or Benning would be more effective.


    In regard to how familiar you are with Carson...and about your cousin...that's irrelevant. But if it makes any difference to you, I live across the Interstate from Ft. Carson...I was stationed at Ft. Carson...and I was deployed to the Gulf War while under 4th Infantry Division command. The 4ID combat patch is the last of the five combat patches I earned the right to wear during my military career.
    "Effective" and your location to the garrison are irrelevant. The 10th SF are oriented toward Europe, and the Contingency Corps is primarily Benning and Bragg. If something new is being done, it will be done out of those two places, not Carson.

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    Re: Fort Carson brigade headed to Kuwait...

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    I sure wish Americans woukd stop the bickering and shooting down the CIC and actually stand behind their president, country and troops. If I was the enemy I would take glee in the constant second guessing and disrespect of our president. It could contribute to their brazen behavior.
    Stand behind Obama on what? Saying ISIS is a JV team?

    He has no foreign policy. What's to stand behind?

    The Islamic radicals don't hate us for what we do, they hate us for who we are.

    Tiptoeing around terrorists because you fear making them angry is cowardly.

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    As far as holding them back once they are committed, do you see any precedence for that? Just because he is hesitant to put American lives on the line doesn't mean he won't support them when needed.
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    Re: Fort Carson brigade headed to Kuwait...

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    "Effective" and your location to the garrison are irrelevant.
    Oh...I agree my location is irrelevant...as is your connection through your cousin.

    The 10th SF are oriented toward Europe,
    Where they are oriented is irrelevant since they have conducted many operations in the Middle East.

    and the Contingency Corps is primarily Benning and Bragg. If something new is being done, it will be done out of those two places, not Carson.
    Ahhh...the Contingency Corps, more properly known as XVIII Airborne Corps, is a rapid deployment force. They are important, but their use doesn't preclude the 3rd ACBT being used as well...especially since they will already be in the region.
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