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Fort Carson brigade headed to Kuwait...

EnigmaO01 said:
I sure wish Americans woukd stop the bickering and shooting down the CIC and actually stand behind their president, country and troops. If I was the enemy I would take glee in the constant second guessing and disrespect of our president. It could contribute to their brazen behavior.

As far as holding them back once they are committed, do you see any precedence for that? Just because he is hesitant to put American lives on the line doesn't mean he won't support them when needed.
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If Obama supported and appreciated the sacrifices our men and women have made - as well as their families - maybe I would agree.

But he's been nothing but a back stabbing piece of ****.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
If Obama supported and appreciated the sacrifices our men and women have made - as well as their families - maybe I would agree.

But he's been nothing but a back stabbing piece of ****.
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Examples please?
 
EnigmaO01 said:
Sorry if you have ****head relatives in a ****hole country. :) My condolences. :)
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You big kidder. I won't be calling the Libyan civilians killed by US/NATO bombs ****heads.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
Libya was a rounding success.
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For ISIS, yes Obama gave ISIS a victory they could not otherwise have hoped for in Libya. President Obama eliminated their opposition (Libya government) for them.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
Libya was a rounding success. A tyrant eliminated, full cooperation of NATO partners, and no causualties. Just like Clinton in Kosovo.

Now if you think we needed boots on the ground and occupation you're on your own. I see no reason we need our troops in that ****hole of a country.

And don't even start the Bengazi B.S. A republican panel found nothing. End of story.
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A rounding success???

Have you been reading the news about Libya lately? I'm thinking a lot of Libyans are wishing Obama never set his sights on their country.

And, just because YOU...and OBAMA...would rather forget Benghazi ever happened, the rest of America won't. Believe me, we are nowhere near the end of THAT story.

EnigmaO01 said:
We have a president that uses his head for a change and doesn't go charging in using our troops like cheap french whores fighting other people's battles.

And you keep forgetting the American public is war wary. Hell I bet the guys that got deployed 4 or 5 times to Iraq and Afghanistan are too! i know some damn good soldiers that didn't reenlist. They said enough is enough! I wanna stay married and see my kids grow up!
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My guess is those soldiers are getting out because they know who their Commander In Chief is.

The only people who are "war wary" are the ***** liberals/progressives/Democrats who are too afraid to deal with those who are killing our citizens.

EnigmaO01 said:
Well OBL was probably taking glee up into the end when he realzed his home had been breached and it was time to take out the mother****er. That was not under Bush's watch. He gave up on OBL and said he didn't care.
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Dude...you guys already wore out that OBL thing. How long are you going to try to hold up the one success story Obama had and try to make it sound like he's such a bad-ass. Heck, I'm sure you are still blaming Bush for our slow economic recovery, aren't you?


You really do need to get with the program. The majority of Americans think Obama is ****ing up big-time in regard to ISIS...heck, they think he's ****ing up big-time with his foreign policy, altogether. All your excuses for him won't help him at all.
 
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EnigmaO01 said:
The military action was.

So what do you want us to do occupy it?
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The Military action that led to Benghazi and Libya turning into a terrorist safe haven was a " success " ??? Lol !!
 
Mycroft said:
shrug...

You haven't explained why a unit from Bragg or Benning would be more effective.


In regard to how familiar you are with Carson...and about your cousin...that's irrelevant. But if it makes any difference to you, I live across the Interstate from Ft. Carson...I was stationed at Ft. Carson...and I was deployed to the Gulf War while under 4th Infantry Division command. The 4ID combat patch is the last of the five combat patches I earned the right to wear during my military career.
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Thank you for your service. 5 combat patches? Props.

I have no doubt they will slay our enemies.
 
Fenton said:
Lol !!

Lybia was a success ? In what alternate reality could Lybia be classified as anything other than the cluster that it turned out to be ?

How many people did Isis behead in Lybia over the weekend ?
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21 Coptic Christians...and just before doing so they mentioned the crusades (which they believe they are fighting). I wonder if they saw Obama's comments on the crusades?

Theres a video, im not going to watch it.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
If Obama supported and appreciated the sacrifices our men and women have made - as well as their families - maybe I would agree.

But he's been nothing but a back stabbing piece of ****.
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I agree. In fact I think he squandered the blood and tears of Americans for his personal political benefit before an election.
 
joko104 said:
For ISIS, yes Obama gave ISIS a victory they could not otherwise have hoped for in Libya. President Obama eliminated their opposition (Libya government) for them.
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And dont forget, Hillary lied saying Gaddafi was planning genocide to get us in there.
 
Mycroft said:
A rounding success???

Have you been reading the news about Libya lately? I'm thinking a lot of Libyans are wishing Obama never set his sights on their country.

And, just because YOU...and OBAMA...would rather forget Benghazi ever happened, the rest of America won't. Believe me, we are nowhere near the end of THAT story.



My guess is those soldiers are getting out because they know who their Commander In Chief is.

The only people who are "war wary" are the ***** liberals/progressives/Democrats who are too afraid to deal with those who are killing our citizens.



Dude...you guys already wore out that OBL thing. How long are you going to try to hold up the one success story Obama had and try to make it sound like he's such a bad-ass. Heck, I'm sure you are still blaming Bush for our slow economic recovery, aren't you?


You really do need to get with the program. The majority of Americans think Obama is ****ing up big-time in regard to ISIS...heck, they think he's ****ing up big-time with his foreign policy, altogether. All your excuses for him won't help him at all.
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You know its bad when Nancy Pelosi says Obama needs a more robust response to ISIS.
 
US Conservative said:
You know its bad when Nancy Pelosi says Obama needs a more robust response to ISIS.
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When you need Nancy to backstop you point, your point is in error.
 
US Conservative said:
Whats the difference between cavalry and armor? LAV's vs tanks?
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Equipment-wise, not a lot of difference. Both types of units use armored vehicles...Abrams, Bradleys, etc. They generally have different missions, though that can overlap, as well.

Cavalry is normally tasked with quickly taking an objective. Armor is normally tasked with holding an objective. Operations in the ME have changed that a great deal and both types of units will do either task.


btw, 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment was located at Ft. Carson for a while but has since moved to Ft. Hood. They were a "heavy" Regiment and were deployed in the Gulf War and the Iraq War. Some of their units have been converted to "Stryker" units and they use these:


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US Conservative said:
Whats the difference between cavalry and armor? LAV's vs tanks?
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Cavalry performs the traditional cavalry role: screen, recon, block, hold. Armor is basically a battering ram, whether as a spearhead, flank attack, or rear gaurd.

Cavalry is indirect support. Armor is both direct and indirect support, because armored units can also perform a cavalry mission.
 
Mycroft said:
Equipment-wise, not a lot of difference. Both types of units use armored vehicles...Abrams, Bradleys, etc. They generally have different missions, though that can overlap, as well.

Cavalry is normally tasked with quickly taking an objective. Armor is normally tasked with holding an objective. Operations in the ME have changed that a great deal and both types of units will do either task.


btw, 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment was located at Ft. Carson for a while but has since moved to Ft. Hood. They were a "heavy" Regiment and were deployed in the Gulf War and the Iraq War. Some of their units have been converted to "Stryker" units and they use these:


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When I play video games, those are one of my favorite vehicles. Some of them are amphibious. I bet the real thing is even cooler.
 
US Conservative said:
When I play video games, those are one of my favorite vehicles. Some of them are amphibious. I bet the real thing is even cooler.
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I'm a gigantic opponent of pneumatic tires on a combat fighting vehicle.
 
apdst said:
I'm a gigantic opponent of pneumatic tires on a combat fighting vehicle.
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Ive wondered about that. Im sure they are sturdy, but they are still tires.
I'd guess they are more susceptible to damage but are also lighter and aid (some) mobility which would be a plus.

Are they crap?
 
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