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    Tribal leader: Iraqi troops in Anbar province could 'collapse within hours'

    Tribal leader: Iraqi troops in Anbar province could 'collapse within hours'

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    Exert: An Iraqi tribal leader said Saturday that ISIS militants are gaining ground in Anbar province, predicting a "collapse within hours" of Iraqi army forces there if tribal forces withdraw.

    So about all that progress that's been made defeating ISIS that the WH was championing a short while ago...

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    Re: Tribal leader: Iraqi troops in Anbar province could 'collapse within hours'

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    Tribal leader: Iraqi troops in Anbar province could 'collapse within hours'

    Exert: An Iraqi tribal leader said Saturday that ISIS militants are gaining ground in Anbar province, predicting a "collapse within hours" of Iraqi army forces there if tribal forces withdraw.

    So about all that progress that's been made defeating ISIS that the WH was championing a short while ago...
    The WH, and policies emanating from it in these last dozen years has been the Islamic states biggest benefactor.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Tribal leader: Iraqi troops in Anbar province could 'collapse within hours'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The WH, and policies emanating from it in these last dozen years has been the Islamic states biggest benefactor.
    I'll admit, that I doubt that we'd be in this present position with Iran were Saddam to still be in power. But regardless of your opinions of the Iraq conflict, that book was closed when the last combat troops left the country and the future of Iraq was handed over to it's people. Besides, one could easily argue that the Arab Spring has a larger part to play in attributing to ISIS, or even the failure of the Iraqi Government to work with it's Sunni brethren as had they of done so we wouldn't be in this position in the first place. Neither of those situations had one thing to do with American involvement. So you can stop with the American bashing, as it's no longer relevant to this equation.

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    Re: Tribal leader: Iraqi troops in Anbar province could 'collapse within hours'

    Well, the Tribal leader might be Right.




    Between 20 and 25 ISIS fighters wearing Iraqi Army uniforms infiltrated al-Asad airbase Friday -- the sprawling western Iraqi base where 400 American forces are training Iraqi troops -- and tried to enter the base, military officials said. The ISIS fighters were killed as Iraqi forces repelled the attack, officials said, and no U.S. military service members were affected by the attack. A statement released by Combined Joint Task Force-Operation Inherent Resolve confirmed the attack.

    Kirby confirmed that on Thursday ISIS fighters had taken over al-Baghdadi, a town located less than 10 miles from the base at al-Asad. ISIS fighters who had been besieging the town for months were able to make into the town on Thursday and take over the local Iraqi police station. The taking of al-Baghdadi was the first time in months that ISIS had gained ground in Iraq, where it has been in a defensive posture.....snip~

    ISIS Fighters Attack Iraqi Base Wearing Iraqi Army Uniforms - ABC News

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    Re: Tribal leader: Iraqi troops in Anbar province could 'collapse within hours'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I'll admit, that I doubt that we'd be in this present position with Iran were Saddam to still be in power. But regardless of your opinions of the Iraq conflict, that book was closed when the last combat troops left the country and the future of Iraq was handed over to it's people. Besides, one could easily argue that the Arab Spring has a larger part to play in attributing to ISIS, or even the failure of the Iraqi Government to work with it's Sunni brethren as had they of done so we wouldn't be in this position in the first place. Neither of those situations had one thing to do with American involvement. So you can stop with the American bashing, as it's no longer relevant to this equation.
    As long as the US continues to advance destructive foreign policy, the book is wide open. And those citizens that have and are suffering because of it, would be offended by your dismissal, and suggestion that the book is closed.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Tribal leader: Iraqi troops in Anbar province could 'collapse within hours'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    As long as the US continues to advance destructive foreign policy, the book is wide open. And those citizens that have and are suffering because of it, would be offended by your dismissal, and suggestion that the book is closed.
    The United States didn't create ISIS.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Tribal leader: Iraqi troops in Anbar province could 'collapse within hours'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The United States didn't create ISIS.
    Myself included, I can't think of anybody that has suggested that. Now, if you'd like to follow along, what has been pointed out is that the leaders that US foreign policy has removed, contained Islamic extremism. See how that works, it really is elementary.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Tribal leader: Iraqi troops in Anbar province could 'collapse within hours'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    As long as the US continues to advance destructive foreign policy, the book is wide open. And those citizens that have and are suffering because of it, would be offended by your dismissal, and suggestion that the book is closed.
    People who are dying in Iraq and Syria right now, aren't doing so not because of US Foreign policy, but because of ISIS, which was an organization that sprung out of the Arab Spring. And despite what we can say about the situation in Iraq, it's not like we've been bombing Syria prior to the rise of ISIS so some of the blame also rests with Assad and his military's capabilities. Come to think about it, there's no real guarantee Saddam could of handled things as well had the Shia in the South decide to launch an insurrection. I *think* he could of, based on the fact that he did do a good job of handling the problem in the aftermath of the First Gulf War, but then you never really know for sure about these things.

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    Re: Tribal leader: Iraqi troops in Anbar province could 'collapse within hours'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    People who are dying in Iraq and Syria right now, aren't doing so not because of US Foreign policy, but because of ISIS, which was an organization that sprung out of the Arab Spring. And despite what we can say about the situation in Iraq, it's not like we've been bombing Syria prior to the rise of ISIS so some of the blame also rests with Assad and his military's capabilities. Come to think about it, there's no real guarantee Saddam could of handled things as well had the Shia in the South decide to launch an insurrection. I *think* he could of, based on the fact that he did do a good job of handling the problem in the aftermath of the First Gulf War, but then you never really know for sure about these things.
    That's ridiculous. Had the US and other Western powers not interfered with president Assad's war on terror from the beginning, he would have crushed the terrorists operating in his country early on. But regime change in Syria, as with Libya, has been a long term US foreign policy ambition. Stop being gullible and patronising. US policy in the ME is destroying it. And the ideology of radical Islamic extremism, far predates the Arab Spring. Again, don't pedal such propaganda. The leaders that have been removed/neutralised in the region contained it however, and US policy has let that genie out of the bottle. Have fun putting it back in.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Tribal leader: Iraqi troops in Anbar province could 'collapse within hours'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    That's ridiculous. Had the US and other Western powers not interfered with president Assad's war on terror from the beginning, he would have crushed the terrorists operating in his country early on. But regime change in Syria, as with Libya, has been a long term US foreign policy ambition. Stop being gullible and patronising. US policy in the ME is destroying it. And the ideology of radical Islamic extremism, far predates the Arab Spring. Again, don't pedal such propaganda. The leaders that have been removed/neutralised in the region contained it however, and US policy has let that genie out of the bottle. Have fun putting it back in.

    Mornin Monte. I don't think they consider the Syrian MB a western power, nor are the Saud and those who follow them. Are they not responsible for the Civil uprisings and then the forcible change of removing Assad from power? Did they not use the US to get involved with aid and soft power. Plus have been influencing the US and others to keep up the pressure on Assad?

    Didn't Clinton hold her Friends of Syria's Meetings in the Abu Dhabi and some more of the lavish establishments of the ME, to begin that process. While Johnny Quest McCain took pics with terrorists in the Free Syrian Army Rebels?

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