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    Re: Tribal leader: Iraqi troops in Anbar province could 'collapse within hours'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    You know, I've never got what people such as yourself on the right says that the left "doesn't have the balls to do what it takes." The fact of the matter is that Obama has bombed more countries than Bush (Lizza says Obama has bombed more nations than Bush) and the number of drone strikes have skyrocketed under administration. The following graph ONLY takes into account his first term, and even still, Obama during his first term committed six times as many drone strikes than Bush in Pakistan:

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    "The fact of the matter is that Obama has bombed more countries than Bush".....

    True. Because under his watch terrorism is spreading. Another cheap distraction of meaningless stats. War is not measured in bombs dropped, if they were Britain would have been in German hands after the "Battle of Britain"....it is measured in ground gained.

    As Obama has for seven years attempted to ride a wave of appeasement and some weird idea of "peace" the war has spread from one fight to abut seven. So of course he has to bomb more countries, and the people in them let us not forget, because he is actually losing.

    Three years ago the commander in chief declared Iraq was stable enough that American troops can come home...just in time for the election. Now, he's blabbing about "Crusades" while facing what was obvious a year ago, they need boots on the ground
    ""You know, when we sell to other countries, even if they're allies -- you never know about an ally. An ally can turn."
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    Re: Tribal leader: Iraqi troops in Anbar province could 'collapse within hours'

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Thank you for admitting it.
    Just for the record, I wasn't referring to myself but the person you were speaking with.

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    Re: Tribal leader: Iraqi troops in Anbar province could 'collapse within hours'

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Im not the one with the problem recognizing evil.
    That depends on what your definition of evil is. When you vote Obama, evil is "not Obama". If you have swallowed sufficient doses of cool aid, then evil is any form of opposition to the regime.

    Sarah Palin is evil, she gives him lip.

    Ted Cruz is evil because he's...ah Ted Cruz and a funny name from Canada is easy to generate hate against.

    Anyone with the name "Bush" in their ancestry is evil and unfit to be president.

    Islamic terrorism, though, does not exist, there is no evil there, nor in Iran, and Libya was evil, became not evil, then became evil again, because George Bush didn't protect America from the evil of "strongman" Mohamar Gaddafi....

    It's all in the brand
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    Re: Tribal leader: Iraqi troops in Anbar province could 'collapse within hours'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Just for the record, I wasn't referring to myself but the person you were speaking with.
    No problemo.

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    Re: Tribal leader: Iraqi troops in Anbar province could 'collapse within hours'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    "The fact of the matter is that Obama has bombed more countries than Bush".....

    True. Because under his watch terrorism is spreading. Another cheap distraction of meaningless stats. War is not measured in bombs dropped, if they were Britain would have been in German hands after the "Battle of Britain"....it is measured in ground gained.

    As Obama has for seven years attempted to ride a wave of appeasement and some weird idea of "peace" the war has spread from one fight to abut seven. So of course he has to bomb more countries, and the people in them let us not forget, because he is actually losing.

    Three years ago the commander in chief declared Iraq was stable enough that American troops can come home...just in time for the election. Now, he's blabbing about "Crusades" while facing what was obvious a year ago, they need boots on the ground
    Even if he had tried, and then recognized that such appeasement isn't working I could respect it.
    But he triples down and stays the course. What a stubborn fool.

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    Re: Tribal leader: Iraqi troops in Anbar province could 'collapse within hours'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    That depends on what your definition of evil is. When you vote Obama, evil is "not Obama". If you have swallowed sufficient doses of cool aid, then evil is any form of opposition to the regime.

    Sarah Palin is evil, she gives him lip.

    Ted Cruz is evil because he's...ah Ted Cruz and a funny name from Canada is easy to generate hate against.

    Anyone with the name "Bush" in their ancestry is evil and unfit to be president.

    Islamic terrorism, though, does not exist, there is no evil there, nor in Iran, and Libya was evil, became not evil, then became evil again, because George Bush didn't protect America from the evil of "strongman" Mohamar Gaddafi....

    It's all in the brand
    Indeed and its a frightening insight. It makes it easier to understand how some of the worst dictatorships in history were/are able to stand. Its probably the way of the world, and what was seen in the west for a time is actually an footnote in history.

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    Re: Tribal leader: Iraqi troops in Anbar province could 'collapse within hours'

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Even if he had tried, and then recognized that such appeasement isn't working I could respect it.
    But he triples down and stays the course. What a stubborn fool.
    Obama has never altered any course no matter how ill conceived, and regardless of any new information. He decided that Iraq was "done" and so when it was obvious it was "not done" he could hardly say "we were wrong about that.....and now..."

    It's not in him
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    Re: Tribal leader: Iraqi troops in Anbar province could 'collapse within hours'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Obama has never altered any course no matter how ill conceived, and regardless of any new information. He decided that Iraq was "done" and so when it was obvious it was "not done" he could hardly say "we were wrong about that.....and now..."

    It's not in him
    Agreed. Thomas Sowell might as well have been speaking about Obama in my sig.

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    Re: Tribal leader: Iraqi troops in Anbar province could 'collapse within hours'

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Indeed and its a frightening insight. It makes it easier to understand how some of the worst dictatorships in history were/are able to stand. Its probably the way of the world, and what was seen in the west for a time is actually an footnote in history.
    You are of course right.

    Hitler was able to shift all blame for the plight of the German people in a depression onto the backs of "Der Juden" and quickly was able to steal every last dollar on the road to the ovens. The power of propaganda is immense...and Obama has it as his only tool
    ""You know, when we sell to other countries, even if they're allies -- you never know about an ally. An ally can turn."
    Donald Trump, 11/23/17

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    Re: Tribal leader: Iraqi troops in Anbar province could 'collapse within hours'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    You are of course right.

    Hitler was able to shift all blame for the plight of the German people in a depression onto the backs of "Der Juden" and quickly was able to steal every last dollar on the road to the ovens. The power of propaganda is immense...and Obama has it as his only tool
    I once read a study that quantified lefty bias in the media, press, and govt and its effect on elections. It concluded that there was something like a 10 point skew as a result. This means most states would vote like Texas in Presidential elections without them.

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