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George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

Bush didn't lie.

Repeateding 10 year old false naratives is a bit immature, don't you think ?

Democrats claimed Saddam had WMD and had intentions to go Nuclear before Bush ever stepped into the White House.

Not to mention they voted FOR the Iraq resolution.


If you believe that Bush didn't lie...then no amount of information out there is going to dissuade you. It isn't a false narrative. There is ample evidence, much of it from former staff members that Bush/Cheney and Rumsfield were plotting and planning for the attack on Iraq from the beginning of the administration. 9/11 gave them the vehicle that they needed and all you need to do is go back and look at history to see the orchestrated effort that began in the weeks following 9/11 to persuade the public that we needed to attack Iraq. The whole "Axis of Evil" was their ploy.

Bush absolutely lied. He lied repeatedly trying to link Iraq and 911, manipulating the public fear.

You are absolutely right about one thing though....yes, Democrats voted for the Iraq resolution and deserve a share of the blame as well. But not for the lies and manipulation....but because they were so afraid of their own shadows and so afraid of being perceived as weak or "unpatriotic" went along with the resolution rather than standing up for what was right.

You can try to say Bush didn't lie all you want...but the bottom line is they used American soldiers as pawns and have the blood of thousands on their hands as a result of their lies. They will pay come judgement day.
 
If we had won, there would be no need to go back. What you're talking about is an occupation that never ends, which even Bush wasn't in favor of.

That's exactly what NP and his Neo-con pals want...endless occupation. They have never seen a war that they didn't love.
 
If you believe that Bush didn't lie...then no amount of information out there is going to dissuade you. It isn't a false narrative. There is ample evidence, much of it from former staff members that Bush/Cheney and Rumsfield were plotting and planning for the attack on Iraq from the beginning of the administration. 9/11 gave them the vehicle that they needed and all you need to do is go back and look at history to see the orchestrated effort that began in the weeks following 9/11 to persuade the public that we needed to attack Iraq. The whole "Axis of Evil" was their ploy.

Bush absolutely lied. He lied repeatedly trying to link Iraq and 911, manipulating the public fear.

You are absolutely right about one thing though....yes, Democrats voted for the Iraq resolution and deserve a share of the blame as well. But not for the lies and manipulation....but because they were so afraid of their own shadows and so afraid of being perceived as weak or "unpatriotic" went along with the resolution rather than standing up for what was right.

You can try to say Bush didn't lie all you want...but the bottom line is they used American soldiers as pawns and have the blood of thousands on their hands as a result of their lies. They will pay come judgement day.



Oh the irony.

Im not the one bringing up 10 year old left wing false narratives about lies over WMD.

You got sucked Into the BS and dont have the humility or integrity to admit it.

At least Bush was a honest man which is far more than I can say for his critics and Obama.
 
Oh the irony.

Im not the one bringing up 10 year old left wing false narratives about lies over WMD.

You got sucked Into the BS and dont have the humility or integrity to admit it.

At least Bush was a honest man which is far more than I can say for his critics and Obama.

wow....all I can say is just wow! You guys want so desperately to re-write the legacy of GWB and change history. GWB an "honest man"? You seriously have got to be kidding.

You guys keep hoping that time will change destiny. Let me give you a clue - Just because it happened 10 years ago doesn't make it a "false narrative"

People in America do have short memories...and sometimes people forget and forgive the actions of our leaders. Unfortunately for you, the results of GWB's actions still live on today. ISIS is a direct result of not thinking through what destabilizing would lead to. Sorry Charlie but sometimes "time does not heal all wounds"

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wow....all I can say is just wow! You guys want so desperately to re-write the legacy of GWB and change history. GWB an "honest man"? You seriously have got to be kidding.

You guys keep hoping that time will change destiny. Let me give you a clue - Just because it happened 10 years ago doesn't make it a "false narrative"

People in America do have short memories...and sometimes people forget and forgive the actions of our leaders. Unfortunately for you, the results of GWB's actions still live on today. ISIS is a direct result of not thinking through what destabilizing would lead to. Sorry Charlie but sometimes "time does not heal all wounds"

r

don't forget, if a republican becomes president his party will have to hold themselves accountable according to the same standards of judgement they used to judge obama.
 
wow....all I can say is just wow! You guys want so desperately to re-write the legacy of GWB and change history. GWB an "honest man"? You seriously have got to be kidding.

You guys keep hoping that time will change destiny. Let me give you a clue - Just because it happened 10 years ago doesn't make it a "false narrative"

People in America do have short memories...and sometimes people forget and forgive the actions of our leaders. Unfortunately for you, the results of GWB's actions still live on today. ISIS is a direct result of not thinking through what destabilizing would lead to. Sorry Charlie but sometimes "time does not heal all wounds"

r


Manufactured narratives by the Democrat party about lies over WMD are not the same thing as actual lies and people like YOU have no bussiness critiquing anyone's honesty.

I mean you actually think Bushed lied. You probably think Obama is a honest man too.

The truth is your'e too wrapped up in your partisan delusions to know the difference between truth and lies.
 
At least Bush was a honest man which is far more than I can say for his critics and Obama.
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I stopped taking this poster seriously after I read this. This is the kind of delusional thought the far right is still grasping at, with white knuckles. The way I see it, no amount of facts and logic will convince such people the abject futility of such a belief.
 
If you believe that Bush didn't lie...then no amount of information out there is going to dissuade you. It isn't a false narrative. There is ample evidence, much of it from former staff members that Bush/Cheney and Rumsfield were plotting and planning for the attack on Iraq from the beginning of the administration. 9/11 gave them the vehicle that they needed and all you need to do is go back and look at history to see the orchestrated effort that began in the weeks following 9/11 to persuade the public that we needed to attack Iraq. The whole "Axis of Evil" was their ploy.

Bush absolutely lied. He lied repeatedly trying to link Iraq and 911, manipulating the public fear.

You are absolutely right about one thing though....yes, Democrats voted for the Iraq resolution and deserve a share of the blame as well. But not for the lies and manipulation....but because they were so afraid of their own shadows and so afraid of being perceived as weak or "unpatriotic" went along with the resolution rather than standing up for what was right.

You can try to say Bush didn't lie all you want...but the bottom line is they used American soldiers as pawns and have the blood of thousands on their hands as a result of their lies. They will pay come judgement day.

There is PROOF OUT THERE, then it should be easy to provide that PROOF. Lets have it.
 
No amount of proof will convince those determined to cling to this narrative.
 
There is PROOF OUT THERE, then it should be easy to provide that PROOF. Lets have it.

This is a good place to start. It lays out very clearly (From Bush's own staff members) how Cheney and Rumsfield had tried the previous decade trying to convince the first Bush to implement their neo-con agenda to no avail. They needed a pawn in the whitehouse....someone with the intelligence of a thimble and they got that in GWB. It shows very clearly the media barrage that occurred after 911 where the Bush administration layed the groundwork to "justify" the Iraq invasion, linking it rather tenuously to 911.
But...I don't know why I'm wasting my time. People like you will continue to believe what you want to believe. "Mission Accomlished".....right?
 
This is a good place to start. It lays out very clearly (From Bush's own staff members) how Cheney and Rumsfield had tried the previous decade trying to convince the first Bush to implement their neo-con agenda to no avail. They needed a pawn in the whitehouse....someone with the intelligence of a thimble and they got that in GWB. It shows very clearly the media barrage that occurred after 911 where the Bush administration layed the groundwork to "justify" the Iraq invasion, linking it rather tenuously to 911.
But...I don't know why I'm wasting my time. People like you will continue to believe what you want to believe. "Mission Accomlished".....right?

And people like you will provide opinion as proof?
 
And people like you will provide opinion as proof?

Its not "opinion". It is direct evidence from people who were actually part of the administration. Why don't you actually watch it or read about it. You might learn a thing or two.
 
We've gone through this before with the US arming the contra rebels in El Salvador. Remember also when the US was arming Saddam Hussein and Iraq in their war against Iran? We never seem to learn from our mistakes and are going to repeat them over and over.
I see. So it's far better to support the proxies of Iran in your opinion? What exactly is your solution to defeat ISIL?
 
Its not "opinion". It is direct evidence from people who were actually part of the administration. Why don't you actually watch it or read about it. You might learn a thing or two.

That sounds like opinion as well.
 
That sounds like opinion as well.
I'm sorry. You obviously don't know the difference between direct facts from the people who were actively involved and opinions.
 
I have no issue with troops providing training, air support and such.
But the problem of ISIL needs to be addressed.
Then afterwards, the Govts have to change. Iraq policy under the past Shia PM gave ISIL what they wanted. Sunni's who had been targeted by the govt, from targeted to mass killings by Shia Militia, who are not under full control of the govt, but who have turned a blind eye.
Corruption, show trials, Iraq as I mentioned on another thread is ripe for splitting along religious/ethnic lines- And the Kurds will lead the way.

Sisi in Egypt while fighting terrorists, the Egyptian Govt like Iraq created the very same conditions for terrorists recruitment.
We have seen how the courts act in Egypt- mass show trials, hundreds at a time sentenced to death. And what effect does that have, more recruitment for terror groups.
Those that were past leaders, have been cleared of all corruption charges. Egypt is just another basket case in the ME.

Always hindsight and thinking after the fact. Again, Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad gave no quarters to these miscreants.

Stop swallowing camels and straining on gnats!

WASHINGTON, Sept. 23 — A stark assessment of terrorism trends by American intelligence agencies has found that the American invasion and occupation of Iraq has helped spawn a new generation of Islamic radicalism and that the overall terrorist threat has grown since the Sept. 11 attacks.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/world/middleeast/24terror.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
 
I see. So it's far better to support the proxies of Iran in your opinion? What exactly is your solution to defeat ISIL?

The strategy is to do nothing.
 
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I stopped taking this poster seriously after I read this. This is the kind of delusional thought the far right is still grasping at, with white knuckles. The way I see it, no amount of facts and logic will convince such people the abject futility of such a belief.

He was a honest man.

Look, its not his fault or my fault you people are so easily influenced by manufactured narratives. Stop being so friken gullible.

Democrats years before he set foot in office were lamenting Sadaams build up of WMD.
 
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