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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    don't forget, if a republican becomes president his party will have to hold themselves accountable according to the same standards of judgement they used to judge obama.
    why would you say this like there is truth to it?

    it is fact that neither party holds their party to the same standards they hold the other to.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We won't feel better when the violence spills over our of the region.
    Which is why I advocate an aggressive containment strategy. Sending troops into the ME isn't going to prevent spill over as has been displayed.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    We've gone through this before with the US arming the contra rebels in El Salvador. Remember also when the US was arming Saddam Hussein and Iraq in their war against Iran? We never seem to learn from our mistakes and are going to repeat them over and over.
    Except that virtually all Iraqi weapons are not from the U.S. Virtually all were Soviet with a handful of French thrown in.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

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    George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    When Iraqi tribal leaders came to D.C. looking for help against ISIL, the White House refused. Then the former president made a call.

    By MARK PERRY
    February 12, 2015
    Good for him.

    As much as GWB made mistakes [what president hasn't] he has been silent too long.

    I read this and weep..

    The brutal attack underscored the purpose of the Anbar delegation’s visit: The tribal leaders believed that they could defeat the Islamic State—but only if the Obama administration would agree to ship them weapons directly, bypassing Iraq’s untrustworthy Ministry of Defense.

    Yet after they arrived in Washington the tribal leaders found themselves thwarted at every turn in their efforts to meet with high-level administration officials. They were told they would have to take up these matters with new Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi and would have to rely for weapons on those provided to them by Abadi’s ministry of defense.

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    ...as it tells me that the Obama administration has no intentions of defeating ISIS, the military's hands are tied and there is no goal
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Yeah, I'm not Bush's fan, but if it helps against ISIS I'll take it.
    exactly my sentiment.

    I'll leave it to other to explain why they favor ISIS over Bush's help defeating them.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by SBu View Post
    Agree. However, the days of committing our troops in large numbers to the ME are over. ME states will have to finally step up to the plate to confront the challenges in their own back yard.
    And what if they don't?

    In my opinion, the only thing that will ever lead to a lasting peace in the Middle East will be a massive long term occupation of the Middle East from Iran to Saudi Arabia and Yemen.

    Because ultimately, against insurgents and irregulars you can't defeat them by killing them. You defeat them by occupying territory and expelling them from more and more of it.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL.....God bless the guy that created the mess we are in the first place? God bless the man that manipulated public fear after 911 to "justify" Cheney/Rumsfield decades old desire to attack Iraq?

    No....God bless the thousands of US soldiers that died as a result of Bush's lies. God bless their families. And God Bless all of us that we don't repeat the same mistakes with the ignorance that created even more instability in the region.

    No....we don't need any more of GWB's involvement in Iraq.
    You really should get over your partisan hatred and think about the problems at hand. Attempting to blame Bush is just anal partisanship. After all, when Obama completed the withdrawal of troops from Iraq, he not only claimed it as a success, he took credit for it.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by SBu View Post
    Which is why I advocate an aggressive containment strategy. Sending troops into the ME isn't going to prevent spill over as has been displayed.
    The only way to contain them is to destroy them.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    And what if they don't?

    In my opinion, the only thing that will ever lead to a lasting peace in the Middle East will be a massive long term occupation of the Middle East from Iran to Saudi Arabia and Yemen.

    Because ultimately, against insurgents and irregulars you can't defeat them by killing them. You defeat them by occupying territory and expelling them from more and more of it.
    I would disagree with that because it would cost way too much in American lives, money, and effort. What would we do that for? The benefit of the ME? I'm not interested.

    Contain the ME. Let them kill each other indefinitely and maybe they will forget that they also hate us.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Like telling Dubya he's no longer POTUS. And then tell him to stfu and go back to ranching.
    Can we assume then that Clinton will close the pie hole?

    And please, if you can find a way to muzzle the loser Al Gore, he wasn't even a president but Clinton's butt boy.
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