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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The strategy is to do nothing.
    Only in the right wing bizzaro universe is continuous bombing and supporting local allies considered "doing nothing".

    Hey maybe since you consider every situation comparable to WWII you can dig up the grave of MacArthur and ask him what he'd do against ISIS.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Only in the right wing bizzaro universe is continuous bombing and supporting local allies considered "doing nothing".

    Hey maybe since you consider every situation comparable to WWII you can dig up the grave of MacArthur and ask him what he'd do against ISIS.
    And how much effect is that having?

    How many targets were attacked today?
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And how much effect is that having?

    How many targets were attacked today?
    Well I'm not conducting the strikes apdst so I don't have that information on hand, but the fact of the matter is except for a few areas in Syria ISIS advance has been brought to a halt and the Kurds and Iraqi Government and backed militias are holding or advancing.

    Your eagerness to throw troops into harms way as some form of internet bravado isn't very appealing and Obama would make a big mistake at this junction in time to commit troops when the problem appears to be contained.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Well I'm not conducting the strikes apdst so I don't have that information on hand, but the fact of the matter is except for a few areas in Syria ISIS advance has been brought to a halt and the Kurds and Iraqi Government and backed militias are holding or advancing.

    Your eagerness to throw troops into harms way as some form of internet bravado isn't very appealing and Obama would make a big mistake at this junction in time to commit troops when the problem appears to be contained.
    Obama is on the right track here. I don't say that often, but it would indeed be a mistake to expand this into another ground war. There's plenty of things he screwed up that allowed the situation to get to this point, but the reaction now is on point. Not every nail needs to be hammered by the US alone.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Well I'm not conducting the strikes apdst so I don't have that information on hand, but the fact of the matter is except for a few areas in Syria ISIS advance has been brought to a halt and the Kurds and Iraqi Government and backed militias are holding or advancing.

    Your eagerness to throw troops into harms way as some form of internet bravado isn't very appealing and Obama would make a big mistake at this junction in time to commit troops when the problem appears to be contained.
    So, we're not continuously bombing them, are we?

    I've never said that American troops should be deployed, but I understand that you're going to ignore that little reality.
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by SBu View Post
    Obama is on the right track here. I don't say that often, but it would indeed be a mistake to expand this into another ground war. There's plenty of things he screwed up that allowed the situation to get to this point, but the reaction now is on point. Not every nail needs to be hammered by the US alone.
    A ground war is the only way to defeat ISIS. Wars can't be won with airpower, alone. Somebody's troops will have to face the enemy, on the ground.
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A ground war is the only way to defeat ISIS. Wars can't be won with airpower, alone. Somebody's troops will have to face the enemy, on the ground.
    Agree. However, the days of committing our troops in large numbers to the ME are over. ME states will have to finally step up to the plate to confront the challenges in their own back yard. American troops can defeat any armed threat, but they can't secure a lasting peace/solution. Only the total commitment of ME states can produce that.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by SBu View Post
    Agree. However, the days of committing our troops in large numbers to the ME are over. ME states will have to finally step up to the plate to confront the challenges in their own back yard. American troops can defeat any armed threat, but they can't secure a lasting peace/solution. Only the total commitment of ME states can produce that.
    It'll never happen.
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It'll never happen.
    Then I feel much better that our troops won't be caught in the middle of a failed region.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by SBu View Post
    Then I feel much better that our troops won't be caught in the middle of a failed region.
    We won't feel better when the violence spills over our of the region.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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