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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The British report was based on the forgeries.
    No. It was not. It was an entirely separate matter.
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    No. The British report had nothing to do with the forgeries. Btw, no claim by anyone was based on the forgeries, which were quickly seen for what they were. The continued citing of this red herring is a marker for lack of familiarity with the facts.
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

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    Who is ignoring that radical Islamists even exist?
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    When did I deny that, and why would I deny that. All presidents lie, and it's always about political objectives. You think that you just said something profound? You think that an American citizen that holds no elected office who embellishes or fabricates a story that does nothing more than make themselves look good until caught, comes anywhere close to presidents lying to the American people!!!!!!!!! Are you............ok look dude, I think I've heard it all from you now.
    Did you take a course on twisting things purposely or what?
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    This is why the US is great deal less than what it could be.

    At present the US has seven hot spots of terror with more on the rise in the greatest uprising in history, and Obama through his Grubers has the nation arguing about a twelve year old invasion.

    Nothing is ever settled with the left. How the hell you can unite behind a common cause is beyond me, every discussion in here about what is plaguing America is "Bush's Fault"
    Absolutely...The "it was Bush's fault" meme these days is a clear and blatant diversion tactic to draw attention away from the utter failure Obama is as POTUS.
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    No. The British report had nothing to do with the forgeries. Btw, no claim by anyone was based on the forgeries, which were quickly seen for what they were. The continued citing of this red herring is a marker for lack of familiarity with the facts.
    Can't you read? When UN officials pressed Britain and the US for information about the "other sources" they continually cited when faced with the fact of the Niger forgeries they admitted there were NONE. Their entire case was based on the forged documents.

    The two countries maintain that they have additional evidence—from multiple sources—but do not elaborate. Pressed by journalists and inspectors to reveal their evidence, the two governments refuse. The IAEA tells Reuters that when it asked the US and Britain whether or not they have additional evidence that Iraq had tried to procure uranium, the answer was “no.” [Reuters, 3/26/2003]
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Can't you read? When UN officials pressed Britain and the US for information about the "other sources" they continually cited when faced with the fact of the Niger forgeries they admitted there were NONE. Their entire case was based on the forged documents.
    No. They did not admit there were none. They declined to identify their sources. That's common in intelligence matters, and always a problem when dealing with the uninformed.
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    No. They did not admit there were none. They declined to identify their sources. That's common in intelligence matters, and always a problem when dealing with the uninformed.
    This makes it pretty clear that they had NO additional sources and saying so was just a lie. Also very common in "intelligence matters" no doubt. From my original link.

    The two countries maintain that they have additional evidence—from multiple sources—but do not elaborate. Pressed by journalists and inspectors to reveal their evidence, the two governments refuse. The IAEA tells Reuters that when it asked the US and Britain whether or not they have additional evidence that Iraq had tried to procure uranium, the answer was “no.” [Reuters, 3/26/2003]

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    This makes it pretty clear that they had NO additional sources and saying so was just a lie. From my original link.
    Sorry, but the IAEA was wrong, or they were lying, or Reuters mischaracterized their response. Regardless, the British report in question had nothing to do with the forgeries, and remains valid to this day.
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Sorry, but the IAEA was wrong, or they were lying, or Reuters mischaracterized their response. Regardless, the British report in question had nothing to do with the forgeries, and remains valid to this day.
    I just showed you evidence that the British report was entirely based on the forged documents and that when pressed they admitted their were no other sources. Unless you can document what those supposed sources were you have NOTHING.

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