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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    No amount of proof will convince those determined to cling to this narrative.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    There is PROOF OUT THERE, then it should be easy to provide that PROOF. Lets have it.
    This is a good place to start. It lays out very clearly (From Bush's own staff members) how Cheney and Rumsfield had tried the previous decade trying to convince the first Bush to implement their neo-con agenda to no avail. They needed a pawn in the whitehouse....someone with the intelligence of a thimble and they got that in GWB. It shows very clearly the media barrage that occurred after 911 where the Bush administration layed the groundwork to "justify" the Iraq invasion, linking it rather tenuously to 911.
    But...I don't know why I'm wasting my time. People like you will continue to believe what you want to believe. "Mission Accomlished".....right?
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    This is a good place to start. It lays out very clearly (From Bush's own staff members) how Cheney and Rumsfield had tried the previous decade trying to convince the first Bush to implement their neo-con agenda to no avail. They needed a pawn in the whitehouse....someone with the intelligence of a thimble and they got that in GWB. It shows very clearly the media barrage that occurred after 911 where the Bush administration layed the groundwork to "justify" the Iraq invasion, linking it rather tenuously to 911.
    But...I don't know why I'm wasting my time. People like you will continue to believe what you want to believe. "Mission Accomlished".....right?
    And people like you will provide opinion as proof?

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    And people like you will provide opinion as proof?
    Its not "opinion". It is direct evidence from people who were actually part of the administration. Why don't you actually watch it or read about it. You might learn a thing or two.
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    We've gone through this before with the US arming the contra rebels in El Salvador. Remember also when the US was arming Saddam Hussein and Iraq in their war against Iran? We never seem to learn from our mistakes and are going to repeat them over and over.
    I see. So it's far better to support the proxies of Iran in your opinion? What exactly is your solution to defeat ISIL?

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Its not "opinion". It is direct evidence from people who were actually part of the administration. Why don't you actually watch it or read about it. You might learn a thing or two.
    That sounds like opinion as well.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    That sounds like opinion as well.
    I'm sorry. You obviously don't know the difference between direct facts from the people who were actively involved and opinions.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    I have no issue with troops providing training, air support and such.
    But the problem of ISIL needs to be addressed.
    Then afterwards, the Govts have to change. Iraq policy under the past Shia PM gave ISIL what they wanted. Sunni's who had been targeted by the govt, from targeted to mass killings by Shia Militia, who are not under full control of the govt, but who have turned a blind eye.
    Corruption, show trials, Iraq as I mentioned on another thread is ripe for splitting along religious/ethnic lines- And the Kurds will lead the way.

    Sisi in Egypt while fighting terrorists, the Egyptian Govt like Iraq created the very same conditions for terrorists recruitment.
    We have seen how the courts act in Egypt- mass show trials, hundreds at a time sentenced to death. And what effect does that have, more recruitment for terror groups.
    Those that were past leaders, have been cleared of all corruption charges. Egypt is just another basket case in the ME.
    Always hindsight and thinking after the fact. Again, Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad gave no quarters to these miscreants.

    Stop swallowing camels and straining on gnats!

    WASHINGTON, Sept. 23 — A stark assessment of terrorism trends by American intelligence agencies has found that the American invasion and occupation of Iraq has helped spawn a new generation of Islamic radicalism and that the overall terrorist threat has grown since the Sept. 11 attacks.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/wo...anted=all&_r=0
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    I see. So it's far better to support the proxies of Iran in your opinion? What exactly is your solution to defeat ISIL?
    The strategy is to do nothing.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    I stopped taking this poster seriously after I read this. This is the kind of delusional thought the far right is still grasping at, with white knuckles. The way I see it, no amount of facts and logic will convince such people the abject futility of such a belief.
    He was a honest man.

    Look, its not his fault or my fault you people are so easily influenced by manufactured narratives. Stop being so friken gullible.

    Democrats years before he set foot in office were lamenting Sadaams build up of WMD.

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