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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That's true but Obama can still not name them the aggressors. Nor did he call the latest Egyptian victims Christians, despite them be selected for murder only because of that fact.

    Obama is treating the American people like children and, it seems, with some justification.
    or perhaps trying to counter the idea that Christianity is at war with Islam, rather than that some fanatics are creating havoc in the name of Islam.

    An all out religious war with Islam would indeed bring about the end times, but probably not the scenario envisioned in either the Bible or the Koran.
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

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    No, he can't and it's nothing more than laziness when these people can't even make a half-hearted search for the truth. Of course 'the truth' often holds little interest for them as well. once their feelings are firmly entrenched. Laurence H. Silberman: The Dangerous Lie That
    He is cornered and he knows it. He did not expect anyone to call his bluff.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

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    You are determined that we make war on a religion aren't you?
    It is a war on religion. Where have you been?

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    If you remember Clinton got the U.N. to take care of Saddam's WMD's without invading Iraq. The U.N. inspectors did a good job at it too. There were no WMD's for Bush to find.
    That is a fable invented on the fly. In the lead up to the 2003 invasion there was still no accounting for the wmds that the regime had admitted at the end of the 1991 war that they had.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Do you agree that we helped create democracies in Germany, Japan, and South Korea? We left troops behind in those nations. We did not leave troops behind in South Vietnam....and they fell to the North Vietnamese communists. We did not leave troops behind in Iraq. It should not be hard to work out that when you spill that much blood in a war, and you achieve victory, you have a right and duty to remain at some level until the new government is capable of keeping the peace.

    In hindsight, not having gone against the wishes of the government we had set up and kept an occupying force in Iraq was the wrong decision.
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    If you remember Clinton got the U.N. to take care of Saddam's WMD's without invading Iraq. The U.N. inspectors did a good job at it too. There were no WMD's for Bush to find.
    You mean store them in a building that Saddam played games with inspectors on? So much so that even demo's thought he was building a nuke and called him a threat? That good job?
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    or perhaps trying to counter the idea that Christianity is at war with Islam, rather than that some fanatics are creating havoc in the name of Islam.

    An all out religious war with Islam would indeed bring about the end times, but probably not the scenario envisioned in either the Bible or the Koran.
    Christians, despite the propaganda, are not at war with Islam. Nor are Jews. Islamic factions are at war with the Christians, and Jews, and those Muslims who want to stand in their way. Is that about right?

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Do you agree that we helped create democracies in Germany, Japan, and South Korea? We left troops behind in those nations. We did not leave troops behind in South Vietnam....and they fell to the North Vietnamese communists. We did not leave troops behind in Iraq. It should not be hard to work out that when you spill that much blood in a war, and you achieve victory, you have a right and duty to remain at some level until the new government is capable of keeping the peace.
    Who are America's staunchest allies?

    Canada
    Britain
    Germany'
    Japan

    Three of those countries the US has attacked, one of them repelled the invasion twice.

    Germany and Japan were the arch enemies of America in 1941, and their largest supporters in 1951. Why? The Marshall Plan. Both countries have solid economies and have ceased being a threat many years ago. Korea too, where the US helped rebuild the south in what was a lost war.

    Since then US war making has been invade, wreck everything and leave....

    And in each case, lingering hate sufficient enough to create terrorists.
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Without recognizing that AQin Iraq was an ongoing threat to the country and in fact ignoring that radical islamists even exist, how could we not have expected this to happen?
    Who is ignoring that radical Islamists even exist?
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

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    Clearly he did distinguish between the nuances of different lies from different Presidents. Your post here makes no sense at all other than you completely denying that this President lies for political objectives which envariably will harm people.
    When did I deny that, and why would I deny that. All presidents lie, and it's always about political objectives. You think that you just said something profound? You think that an American citizen that holds no elected office who embellishes or fabricates a story that does nothing more than make themselves look good until caught, comes anywhere close to presidents lying to the American people!!!!!!!!! Are you............ok look dude, I think I've heard it all from you now.
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