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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    If you believe that Bush didn't lie...then no amount of information out there is going to dissuade you. It isn't a false narrative. There is ample evidence, much of it from former staff members that Bush/Cheney and Rumsfield were plotting and planning for the attack on Iraq from the beginning of the administration. 9/11 gave them the vehicle that they needed and all you need to do is go back and look at history to see the orchestrated effort that began in the weeks following 9/11 to persuade the public that we needed to attack Iraq. The whole "Axis of Evil" was their ploy.

    Bush absolutely lied. He lied repeatedly trying to link Iraq and 911, manipulating the public fear.

    You are absolutely right about one thing though....yes, Democrats voted for the Iraq resolution and deserve a share of the blame as well. But not for the lies and manipulation....but because they were so afraid of their own shadows and so afraid of being perceived as weak or "unpatriotic" went along with the resolution rather than standing up for what was right.

    You can try to say Bush didn't lie all you want...but the bottom line is they used American soldiers as pawns and have the blood of thousands on their hands as a result of their lies. They will pay come judgement day.


    Oh the irony.

    Im not the one bringing up 10 year old left wing false narratives about lies over WMD.

    You got sucked Into the BS and dont have the humility or integrity to admit it.

    At least Bush was a honest man which is far more than I can say for his critics and Obama.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Oh the irony.

    Im not the one bringing up 10 year old left wing false narratives about lies over WMD.

    You got sucked Into the BS and dont have the humility or integrity to admit it.

    At least Bush was a honest man which is far more than I can say for his critics and Obama.
    wow....all I can say is just wow! You guys want so desperately to re-write the legacy of GWB and change history. GWB an "honest man"? You seriously have got to be kidding.

    You guys keep hoping that time will change destiny. Let me give you a clue - Just because it happened 10 years ago doesn't make it a "false narrative"

    People in America do have short memories...and sometimes people forget and forgive the actions of our leaders. Unfortunately for you, the results of GWB's actions still live on today. ISIS is a direct result of not thinking through what destabilizing would lead to. Sorry Charlie but sometimes "time does not heal all wounds"

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    wow....all I can say is just wow! You guys want so desperately to re-write the legacy of GWB and change history. GWB an "honest man"? You seriously have got to be kidding.

    You guys keep hoping that time will change destiny. Let me give you a clue - Just because it happened 10 years ago doesn't make it a "false narrative"

    People in America do have short memories...and sometimes people forget and forgive the actions of our leaders. Unfortunately for you, the results of GWB's actions still live on today. ISIS is a direct result of not thinking through what destabilizing would lead to. Sorry Charlie but sometimes "time does not heal all wounds"

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

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    George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    When Iraqi tribal leaders came to D.C. looking for help against ISIL, the White House refused. Then the former president made a call.

    By MARK PERRY
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    So has George H. W. Bush - USS George H.W. Bush and its Super Hornet fighters strike in Iraq - The Washington Post

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    wow....all I can say is just wow! You guys want so desperately to re-write the legacy of GWB and change history. GWB an "honest man"? You seriously have got to be kidding.

    You guys keep hoping that time will change destiny. Let me give you a clue - Just because it happened 10 years ago doesn't make it a "false narrative"

    People in America do have short memories...and sometimes people forget and forgive the actions of our leaders. Unfortunately for you, the results of GWB's actions still live on today. ISIS is a direct result of not thinking through what destabilizing would lead to. Sorry Charlie but sometimes "time does not heal all wounds"

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    Manufactured narratives by the Democrat party about lies over WMD are not the same thing as actual lies and people like YOU have no bussiness critiquing anyone's honesty.

    I mean you actually think Bushed lied. You probably think Obama is a honest man too.

    The truth is your'e too wrapped up in your partisan delusions to know the difference between truth and lies.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    I don't recall either of them pulling this type of stunt.
    Quelle surprise!!
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    At least Bush was a honest man which is far more than I can say for his critics and Obama.
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    I stopped taking this poster seriously after I read this. This is the kind of delusional thought the far right is still grasping at, with white knuckles. The way I see it, no amount of facts and logic will convince such people the abject futility of such a belief.

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    I hope you speak german

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    If you believe that Bush didn't lie...then no amount of information out there is going to dissuade you. It isn't a false narrative. There is ample evidence, much of it from former staff members that Bush/Cheney and Rumsfield were plotting and planning for the attack on Iraq from the beginning of the administration. 9/11 gave them the vehicle that they needed and all you need to do is go back and look at history to see the orchestrated effort that began in the weeks following 9/11 to persuade the public that we needed to attack Iraq. The whole "Axis of Evil" was their ploy.

    Bush absolutely lied. He lied repeatedly trying to link Iraq and 911, manipulating the public fear.

    You are absolutely right about one thing though....yes, Democrats voted for the Iraq resolution and deserve a share of the blame as well. But not for the lies and manipulation....but because they were so afraid of their own shadows and so afraid of being perceived as weak or "unpatriotic" went along with the resolution rather than standing up for what was right.

    You can try to say Bush didn't lie all you want...but the bottom line is they used American soldiers as pawns and have the blood of thousands on their hands as a result of their lies. They will pay come judgement day.
    There is PROOF OUT THERE, then it should be easy to provide that PROOF. Lets have it.
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