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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    One, you clearly don't have the foggiest Idea what "Mission Accomplished" means in military terms and two, Barack "Hussein" Obama declared Iraq a win as he was pulling the troops out. That was the action that spawned the ISIS mess.
    Hold on there.

    Spy Agencies Say Iraq War Worsens Terrorism Threat

    The intelligence estimate, completed in April, is the first formal appraisal of global terrorism by United States intelligence agencies since the Iraq war began, and represents a consensus view of the 16 disparate spy services inside government. Titled “Trends in Global Terrorism: Implications for the United States,’’ it asserts that Islamic radicalism, rather than being in retreat, has metastasized and spread across the globe.

    An opening section of the report, “Indicators of the Spread of the Global Jihadist Movement,” cites the Iraq war as a reason for the diffusion of jihad ideology.

    The report “says that the Iraq war has made the overall terrorism problem worse,” said one American intelligence official.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/wo...pagewanted=all
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Of course Hillary made that **** up and got busted and did what they always do. All politicians, just in case you were thinking its just a Democratic Party phenomenon, do this. And of course lefties point it out when a GOPer commits it, and the right points it out when a dem commits it, and in turn, they both excuse their own. Nothing new.
    Name even one republican who made up such silly farces. Be specific.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    The vast majority of the planning for the 9/11/01 attacks occurred on Clinton's watch. Clinton also turned down a minimum of two made to order opportunities to either take OBL into custody or kill him. Clinton's problem was that he treated international terrorism as merely a law enforcement issue......starting with his response to the 1993 bombing of the world trade center.
    Looks like he could have had it both ways.
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Name even one republican who made up such silly farces. Be specific.
    Seriously, you think that no republican has ever made anything up, got busted for it and lied some more. Say, how old are you anyway?
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by SBu View Post
    I agree. Just because it's the best strategy doesn't mean that it's being implemented well. I'm not in charge here, but I do think it's the best strategy if implemented vigorously.

    It's also a little more complex. There are a number of extremist groups that have existed for a while in various places with weak security that have recently pledged allegiance to ISIS. So it would be wrong to think that the ISIS of Syria and Iraq conquered territory in Afghanistan or Libya, rather the per-existing terror groups in those location have pledged allegiance to ISIS and adopted their techniques/personae.
    There were a number of Nazi extremist groups in the lead up to WW2. Neville Chamberlain thought they could be contained. Today's threat worse. The difference is that today's Neville Chamberlain is Barack "Hussein" Obama.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The Dems were intimidated and lied to in order to get their votes but I know that does not matter to you. They were told that the U.N inspectors would be allowed to complete their work. Even in hindsight you persist in supporting the failed policy of preemptive invasion of sovereign nations which is right in line with Jeb and the rest of the neocons.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSwSDvgw5Uc

    Many of these democrats pushed wmds in Iraq long before Bush ever ran for president. Clinton made "regime change in Iraq" official policy. The same CIA chief that told Bush that wmds were in Iraq was a Clinton administration holdover. You are completely lacking in credibility.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    One, you clearly don't have the foggiest Idea what "Mission Accomplished" means in military terms and two, Barack "Hussein" Obama declared Iraq a win as he was pulling the troops out. That was the action that spawned the ISIS mess.
    Sorry....but ISIS had zero to do with pulling the troops out. ISIS was forming way before that is a direct result of the instability rot by the idiotic actions that the Bush Administration took without realizing what the consequences of those actions would be. If Obama proclaimed Iraq a victory, then he is as clueless as his predecessor. There will be no victory in Iraq at least for decades to come. Anyone with half a brain knows that. We should never have gone in there in the first place and we will be paying the price for the next several decades as a result.
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSwSDvgw5Uc

    Many of these democrats pushed wmds in Iraq long before Bush ever ran for president. Clinton made "regime change in Iraq" official policy. The same CIA chief that told Bush that wmds were in Iraq was a Clinton administration holdover. You are completely lacking in credibility.
    You are lacking in history. It was GW Bush and GW Bush alone who decided on invading Iraq. No democrat ever suggested such a thing.
    And as far as Clarke goes you must know that he blames Bush for failing to follow up on the warnings he had before 911. I'm surprised you would bring him up. Clarkes book exposed Bush's edict of not allowing the mention of Bin Laden in security briefings. He also mention Bush's constant insistence that Al Qaeda was not important and all he wanted was an excuse to invade Iraq. He got one too.
    Last edited by iguanaman; 02-16-15 at 09:43 PM.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    There were a number of Nazi extremist groups in the lead up to WW2. Neville Chamberlain thought they could be contained. Today's threat worse. The difference is that today's Neville Chamberlain is Barack "Hussein" Obama.
    I know everyone wants to equate every mass murdering man/group/organization to Hitler and the Nazis, but it just ain't so. In terms of evil, I agree, but capability, organization, etc. are no where on par. That's all I'm going to say. If you want to talk about the Nazis and Hitler, go to the WW2 forum.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sorry....but ISIS had zero to do with pulling the troops out. ISIS was forming way before that is a direct result of the instability rot by the idiotic actions that the Bush Administration took without realizing what the consequences of those actions would be. If Obama proclaimed Iraq a victory, then he is as clueless as his predecessor. There will be no victory in Iraq at least for decades to come. Anyone with half a brain knows that. We should never have gone in there in the first place and we will be paying the price for the next several decades as a result.
    ISIS is a product of disintegration in Syria and the US departure from Iraq.
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