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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL......oops....you've been watching too much FauxNews again. You should learn by now that you don't get accurate information. But maybe...then again....you don't want accurate information, you might enjoy living in their right-wing world of misinformation.

    Here is the actual text from the incident you are referring to:

    KATIE COURIC (co-host): Since being elected to office, New York's junior senator, Hillary Rodham Clinton, managed to keep a relatively low profile until terror struck in lower Manhattan. At that moment, she was not just a senator, but a concerned parent. She recently sat down with "Dateline NBC's" Jane Pauley to talk about that morning.

    PAULEY: Tuesday morning, Senator Hillary Clinton's first thought when the second plane hit was terrorists. Her next thought was Chelsea, who was not only in New York, but staying downtown.

    CLINTON: She'd gone, what she thought would be just a great jog. She was going to go down to Battery Park, she was going to go around the towers. She went to get a cup of coffee and -- and that's when the plane hit.

    PAULEY: She was close enough to hear the rumble.

    CLINTON: She did hear it.

    PAULEY: And to see the smoke in person, not on television.


    Those damn pesky facts tripping you up again!
    I know that you harbor an emotional and partisan hatred of Fox News....however you assume too much. I did not read about Hillary's fabrications on Fox News. I doubt that any of the stories including the one you referred to without posting a link were completely true as Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea told (actually wrote) three different versions of the story. And I did not miss out on the fact that you did not respond to Hillary's claim of dodging sniper fire in Bosnia. I suppose that is because when cornered, she admitted it was not true and stupidly pushed a yarn blaming it on lack of sleep. And how about Hillary claiming that she and Bill were stone broke when leaving the white house?

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    You of all people suggesting someone, anyone lacks credibility? HILARIOUS.
    Anyone using the term chickenhawk has no credibility. It is a patently stupid term that suggests that anyone who does not beat down the door at a recruiters office and demand to get into a war does not have a right to support a given military action.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    I know that you harbor an emotional and partisan hatred of Fox News....however you assume too much. I did not read about Hillary's fabrications on Fox News. I doubt that any of the stories including the one you referred to without posting a link were completely true as Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea told (actually wrote) three different versions of the story. And I did not miss out on the fact that you did not respond to Hillary's claim of dodging sniper fire in Bosnia. I suppose that is because when cornered, she admitted it was not true and stupidly pushed a yarn blaming it on lack of sleep. And how about Hillary claiming that she and Bill were stone broke when leaving the white house?
    Of course Hillary made that **** up and got busted and did what they always do. All politicians, just in case you were thinking its just a Democratic Party phenomenon, do this. And of course lefties point it out when a GOPer commits it, and the right points it out when a dem commits it, and in turn, they both excuse their own. Nothing new.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'm a veteran of the Army during Carter's administration, I recall being very pumped up as a young man about Iran, and later the Falklands and Grenada. Unfortunately, young men have that chicken hawk mentality. Sometimes it is outgrown though.
    I am no fan of Carter....however why are you referring to him as a chickenhawk? Afterall, he did serve in the US Navy.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Not gaining much territory? Are you kidding me?????????? And just how are we containing them? They are spreading into more countries then we can contain by air strikes. The time to contain them would have been when they were only getting started in Syria and Iraq.
    I agree. Just because it's the best strategy doesn't mean that it's being implemented well. I'm not in charge here, but I do think it's the best strategy if implemented vigorously.

    It's also a little more complex. There are a number of extremist groups that have existed for a while in various places with weak security that have recently pledged allegiance to ISIS. So it would be wrong to think that the ISIS of Syria and Iraq conquered territory in Afghanistan or Libya, rather the per-existing terror groups in those location have pledged allegiance to ISIS and adopted their techniques/personae.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    I am no fan of Carter....however why are you referring to him as a chickenhawk? Afterall, he did serve in the US Navy.
    I don't think I did that. I referred to myself as such in those days.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Bush didn't lie.

    Repeateding 10 year old false naratives is a bit immature, don't you think ?

    Democrats claimed Saddam had WMD and had intentions to go Nuclear before Bush ever stepped into the White House.

    Not to mention they voted FOR the Iraq resolution.
    The Dems were intimidated and lied to in order to get their votes but I know that does not matter to you. They were told that the U.N inspectors would be allowed to complete their work. Even in hindsight you persist in supporting the failed policy of preemptive invasion of sovereign nations which is right in line with Jeb and the rest of the neocons.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Yeah..."Mission Accomplished"...right? You actually believe that? The reality is, Bush and his neo-con cohorts had no idea the destabilization of the region that was going to happen with their invasion. The bottom line is that ISIS exists today as a direct result of the stupidity of the Bush administration. Invading Iraq was an absolute disaster and we are still paying the price today and probably will for decades to come.
    One, you clearly don't have the foggiest Idea what "Mission Accomplished" means in military terms and two, Barack "Hussein" Obama declared Iraq a win as he was pulling the troops out. That was the action that spawned the ISIS mess.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    One, you clearly don't have the foggiest Idea what "Mission Accomplished" means in military terms and two, Barack "Hussein" Obama declared Iraq a win as he was pulling the troops out. That was the action that spawned the ISIS mess.
    The Bush created "Government" of Iraq was a failure from its inception. Maliki was a sectarian terrorist bent on punishing the Sunnis for Saddam's rule. The fact that Bush created an Iraq that could not function without us was not Obama's fault. He did not want to invade Iraq at all. ISIS would still have been active in Syria where they still have their "capital". It was Maliki's treatment of the Sunni's and his purging them from the military that allowed ISIS to take so much territory in Iraq. Cahnces are if we had stayed we would be experience heavy casualties from ISIS and they would be recruiting more troops to fight us too.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Hey, if you can show me documentation that Clinton was irresponsible in anything leading up to 9/11, I'll not deny it.
    The vast majority of the planning for the 9/11/01 attacks occurred on Clinton's watch. Clinton also turned down a minimum of two made to order opportunities to either take OBL into custody or kill him. Clinton's problem was that he treated international terrorism as merely a law enforcement issue......starting with his response to the 1993 bombing of the world trade center.

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