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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, MMC.

    21 souls beheaded by madmen, and we watch as they brag and swagger, and threaten Rome! Are the Christians unable to flee the violence for some reason, and so they become innocent victims to target? How sad....
    Turning the cheek.....nor waiting for it to arrive here. Isn't acceptable Lady P.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Turning the cheek.....nor waiting for it to arrive here. Isn't acceptable Lady P.
    Good morning, MMC.


    I got up a little while ago, got some coffee, and sat down to read the latest news. As usual, no good news anywhere this morning! Then I checked the weather, saw that the actual temperature is -6 outside, and mused on whether or not I should just go back to bed and ask somebody to wake me up in April!

    What think you? :

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Its simple, Bush won, Obama lost.

    Libs like losing wars.
    You probably also believe that 911 occurred on Clinton's watch, GWB captured and killed Bin Laden and then lead us to economic Utopia. Right?
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In fact cutting and running from a 'sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq' has led to the problems and the thousands of lives lost we see there today. Now more American lives are in jeopardy because of Barry Obama.

    You seem to be guessing at history.

    Wow. do you actually believe that? In what world was there a "Sovereign, stable state" in Iraq? The stupidity of going into Iraq without understanding the factions involved there and not recognizing the consequences of destabilizing the region is what lead to ISIS. We are going to be paying the price for GWB's actions for decades to come. You would have to be completely naïve to not understand that.
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Wow. do you actually believe that? In what world was there a "Sovereign, stable state" in Iraq? The stupidity of going into Iraq without understanding the factions involved there and not recognizing the consequences of destabilizing the region is what lead to ISIS. We are going to be paying the price for GWB's actions for decades to come. You would have to be completely naïve to not understand that.
    Well, you can believe our own NIE's on this, HRW, the UN, and nearly every credible foreign relations group producing essays on the rise of Islamic extremism that directly coincides with US intervention in the Middle East, or you can listen to a fringe right wing Canadian living in Costa Rica who thinks he has a handle on this.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Yeah, I'm not Bush's fan, but if it helps against ISIS I'll take it.
    That's exactly how I feel. I was completely against Bush's invasion of Iraq. I didn't like that war at all. I don't believe in attacking a country that didn't attack us first. But ISIS is a problem that isn't getting better, and at this point, anything that helps fight ISIS should be considered. We're all American and should leave petty partisanship aside.
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, MMC.


    I got up a little while ago, got some coffee, and sat down to read the latest news. As usual, no good news anywhere this morning! Then I checked the weather, saw that the actual temperature is -6 outside, and mused on whether or not I should just go back to bed and ask somebody to wake me up in April!

    What think you? :

    They say it will be cold here for another week to.

    I noticed that many were harping at Bush Jr. But didn't want to say much about the Sheik being directed to General Petraeus and then BO's own former General Allen. Which incidentally doesn't think BO Peep and the Lost sheep are handling things appropriately with the War on ISIS.




    Bush urged Abu Risha to extend his stay and meet with retired Gen. David Petraeus,

    Their 10-day schedule included a meeting with a White House aide and a visit to retired Gen. John Allen (Obama’s emissary to the coalition fighting the Islamic State) at his home, as well as one-on-one meetings at the State Department and Pentagon. They arrived confident that they would be They arrived confident that they would be heard; after all, the Obama administration had made the fight against the Islamic State a priority and Allen had promised during meetings with Sunni tribesmen in October in Amman, Jordan, to pass their request for arms on to the Pentagon.

    On the record, Anbar’s delegates said they were pleased by Biden’s visit. (“We’re honored that vice president took the time to see us,” Abu Risha told me.) But off the record they were bitterly disappointed. “We’re interested in fighting ISIL [Islamic State] and the administration is interested in restructuring the Iraqi government,” a delegation member said. “In the meantime, ISIL is killing our people.” (The vice president’s office did not respond to repeated requests for comment on the meeting.).....snip~

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    They say it will be cold here for another week to.

    I noticed that many were harping at Bush Jr. But didn't want to say much about the Sheik being directed to General Petraeus and then BO's own former General Allen. Which incidentally doesn't think BO Peep and the Lost sheep are handling things appropriately with the War on ISIS.




    Bush urged Abu Risha to extend his stay and meet with retired Gen. David Petraeus,

    Their 10-day schedule included a meeting with a White House aide and a visit to retired Gen. John Allen (Obama’s emissary to the coalition fighting the Islamic State) at his home, as well as one-on-one meetings at the State Department and Pentagon. They arrived confident that they would be They arrived confident that they would be heard; after all, the Obama administration had made the fight against the Islamic State a priority and Allen had promised during meetings with Sunni tribesmen in October in Amman, Jordan, to pass their request for arms on to the Pentagon.

    On the record, Anbar’s delegates said they were pleased by Biden’s visit. (“We’re honored that vice president took the time to see us,” Abu Risha told me.) But off the record they were bitterly disappointed. “We’re interested in fighting ISIL [Islamic State] and the administration is interested in restructuring the Iraqi government,” a delegation member said. “In the meantime, ISIL is killing our people.” (The vice president’s office did not respond to repeated requests for comment on the meeting.).....snip~

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    Good morning MMC, do stay wrapped up. Do I understand that you're advocating the US take sides in a clearly sectarian conflict?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by SBu View Post
    Perhaps in a perfect world. As it is, however, Russia/Iran/and Assad haven't been able to take care of them for a long time now, Italy/Britain/and France haven't the stomach for it, the US/Canada/and Aussies could certainly take care of Iraq, but questionable whether public opinion would allow, and if China launched operations in Indonesia, that would open up a huge can of worms for a lot of people for a long time in an already quite touchy area of the world. ...not to mention china is already engaged in its restive western provinces.

    We have to ask ourselves 'what is the cost vs. benefit?' ; 'do our actions actually take steps to fix the problem, or does it exacerbate it?' ; 'are our goals achievable?' ; and 'can we afford it in real and intangible terms?'


    Mornin SBu. These guys need to be attacked on all fronts. From soft power to hard power. By those in criminal organizations, religious organizations, as well as Nations. Also to include Mercs and Assassins and any willing to go a hunting. Then we play with Psy-ops and the propaganda game while going after what means the most to them. That would be their future and their blood. What we do is our choice. I would go with banishment to another planet. We can call it the Klingon Homeworld.

    Good news.....Egypt just joined the Party and Declared War. EA Sports.....its in the Game!

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/africa...post1064318366

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Good morning MMC, do stay wrapped up. Do I understand that you're advocating the US take sides in a clearly sectarian conflict?
    Mornin Monte. No need to wrap up.....I always wax hot my brutha. I agree with Sisi wholeheartedly. That it will take others from outside the ME and Africa to solve the problem. With him Letting the Sunni Imams know the World is focused on them and all they do. He has started the process.

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