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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'm a veteran of the Army during Carter's administration, I recall being very pumped up as a young man about Iran, and later the Falklands and Grenada. Unfortunately, young men have that chicken hawk mentality. Sometimes it is outgrown though.
    What unit were you in? The same unit that Howard Stern was in?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    no, it has never been our policy.. not ever.... we have been interventionalists since our inception.


    what does my lean have to with anything?... my lean doesn't change historical fact.
    Ok, not surprisingly, you didn't even read the post you quoted.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What unit were you in? The same unit that Howard Stern was in?
    I don't recall him being with me, but then the name would have been unremarkable at the time.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Obama's policy that cleared every last remnant of US military assets out of Iraq would qualify as an attempt to not " intervene " and it was a desperately foolish policy decision that enabled Isis's expansion into Iraq.
    Bush negotiated what Obama executed in Iraq, that horse has been beat to death here.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    3 countries in Africa.....Known Chapters in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Indonesia. If they want to really get rid of the physical problem. Russia, Iran and Assad can handle Syria. The Italians, French and Brits take Libya. The US, Canada, and the Aussies take Iraq. China takes Indonesia. All start operation all on the same day. All at the same time. Naturally it includes those in the ME to go in as the pawns.....as they should.



    Islamic State Sprouting Limbs Beyond Mideast......


    The Islamic State is expanding beyond its base in Syria and Iraq to establish militant affiliates in Afghanistan, Algeria, Egypt and Libya, American intelligence officials assert, raising the prospect of a new global war on terror.

    Intelligence officials estimate that the group’s fighters number 20,000 to 31,500 in Syria and Iraq. There are less formal pledges of support from “probably at least a couple hundred extremists” in countries such as Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Tunisia and Yemen, according to an American counterterrorism official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss confidential information about the group.....snip~

    Video purports to show IS militants beheading hostages


    Leave Yemen to the Saud, and let them deal with their sectarian divide on their own for a change.
    Perhaps in a perfect world. As it is, however, Russia/Iran/and Assad haven't been able to take care of them for a long time now, Italy/Britain/and France haven't the stomach for it, the US/Canada/and Aussies could certainly take care of Iraq, but questionable whether public opinion would allow, and if China launched operations in Indonesia, that would open up a huge can of worms for a lot of people for a long time in an already quite touchy area of the world. ...not to mention china is already engaged in its restive western provinces.

    We have to ask ourselves 'what is the cost vs. benefit?' ; 'do our actions actually take steps to fix the problem, or does it exacerbate it?' ; 'are our goals achievable?' ; and 'can we afford it in real and intangible terms?'

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I don't recall him being with me, but then the name would have been unremarkable at the time.
    Howard Stern was in the 1st. Were you in the 1st?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    They Beheaded 21 of them today V.....Sisi of Egypt will kill as many of them as he can, but then ISIS flapped their gums outloud again about conquering Rome. They have a habit of calling all Crusaders now. Wonder when they will start crying about the Godless and then the Djinnn that's going to be coming for their ass.

    We really do need some out there messing with their heads and in the worse way.




    A video purporting to show the mass beheading of Coptic Christian hostages has been released by militants in Libya claiming loyalty to the Islamic State group. The killings raise the possibility that the Islamic militant group — which controls about a third of Syria and Iraq in a self-declared caliphate — has established a direct affiliate less than 500 miles from the southern tip of Italy. One of the militants in the video, speaking English, makes direct reference to that possibility, saying the group now plans to "conquer Rome."

    The Associated Press could not immediately independently verify the video. But the Egyptian government and the Coptic Church, which is based in Egypt, both declared it authentic.....snip~

    Video purports to show IS militants beheading hostages

    Oh, note the Associated Press came up with the thought of a raised possibility of ISIS having a direct affiliate in Libya? Just a mere possibility after 3 months of declaring themselves and Emirate and pledging an entire City to ISIS.

    Just where has the ASSofCitation Been recently? Alternate Universe or something, huh?
    Greetings, MMC.

    21 souls beheaded by madmen, and we watch as they brag and swagger, and threaten Rome! Are the Christians unable to flee the violence for some reason, and so they become innocent victims to target? How sad....

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Bush negotiated what Obama executed in Iraq, that horse has been beat to death here.
    It has ? Where were you ?? Isolated in your self imposed willful ignorance ?

    Obama 2012: No Troops In Iraq, No Status of Forces Agreement - Breitbart



    In October 2012 during the presidential debate, GOP candidate former Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA) pushed the president on his decision to remove all troops.

    " Saturday, at his impromptu press confrence before leaving for a family vacation on Martha’s Vineyard, President Barack Obama claimed that no U.S. troops were left in Iraq to help keep the peace because Iraq’s refusal to sign a status of forces agreement.
    In October 2012 during the presidential debate, GOP candidate former Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA) pushed the president on his decision to remove all troops.

    Romney said, “There should have been a status of forces agreement,” Obama replied, “That’s not true, no.”

    Obama added, “What I would not have done is left 10,000 Troops in Iraq that would tie us down.”


    This is why no takes your " expertise " on foreign policy decisions seriously. Your'e just another American hating left wing hack obsessed with Bush.
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    " Return to Power By Any Means Necessary "

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Thats why they dont want us to go in-politics above all else.
    They know that being right yet again on Iraq proves them wrong once again.
    If anything, Obama has shown a downright obsession with remaining on the right side of an issue. He will not change even when it is to his advantage.

    You are correct. He cannot ever be seen in a negative light or having been wrong. On top of that he is way thin skinned...look at the dust up over Netanyahu...it's all about a two year old perceived insult.

    This guy does not get over resentments.
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Ok, not surprisingly, you didn't even read the post you quoted.
    I did read it...

    now onto your next deflection...

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