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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    The only commitments Obama is concerned with are protecting Islam and his healthcare bill.
    Now you're being very silly.

    He retires in two. He has no "concerns" other than how much he will charge on his speaking tours afterward used as a means of "what I really did was....."
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Thats what Americans want, its not what we have.
    Actually it's what Americans NEED....
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    That's not my point Thrilla.

    I'm saying that people are trying to justify intervening in Iraq... AGAIN on very flimsy ground.

    There's alot of wrong in this world and it's not our job to put it all right.

    It'd be very nice if we could... but we can't and the current strategy has contained the situation and ISIS is losing ground... why choose now to get involved and spend more blood and treasure trying to stop evil in a place that's rife with it.

    Some of the militias the Iraqi government is using to push back against ISIS is committing atrocities themselves... so who do we support that doesn't commit evil.
    that's a rather weak cop out though.... i mean, it's basically stating " well, we can't fight all evil, so we shouldn't fight evil at all"

    we are involved in Iraq... this isn't a case of being completely extricated and going back in.. we never left....
    Iraq is supportive of our help in defeating ISIS... hell, there's an entire coalition of allies who all want to fight them....

    the question of whether to not we will fight ISIS has already been answered... it's been decided in the affirmative.... the only questions remaining are on strategy and tactics.
    thus far, we have no strategy regarding ISIS....we have a goal, and we are employing tactical air strikes.... that's it.

    I'd agree that ISIS is losing momentum... but I would not argue it's losing ground.... it had both losses and gains
    containment is simply not a goal of the US or of any of the allied coalition members....that's just the reality.

    as for who we lend support to and we we do not, that's a tough question and it's a valid point that some of those whom would be allied in the fight against ISIS are not our true allies and in fact commit atrocities.... such are the realities of this world... it's hard to navigate such complexities, but it's not an excuse to surrender the field.

    in any event , it is my position that groups such as ISIS and Boko Haram should be eradicated from the earth..... as should such regimes as North Korea , etc.
    I find no moral validity in allowing them to exist.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    I'm not the war monger.
    You ruin your credibility calling veterans chickenhawks, having never served a single day in the service.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Will the "she" you are talking about again regale us with stories about taking sniper fire in Bosnia? Or her daughter happening to be jogging around the world trade center towers when the jets hit them on 9/11/01? Or will she get mental health counseling?
    LOL......oops....you've been watching too much FauxNews again. You should learn by now that you don't get accurate information. But maybe...then again....you don't want accurate information, you might enjoy living in their right-wing world of misinformation.

    Here is the actual text from the incident you are referring to:

    KATIE COURIC (co-host): Since being elected to office, New York's junior senator, Hillary Rodham Clinton, managed to keep a relatively low profile until terror struck in lower Manhattan. At that moment, she was not just a senator, but a concerned parent. She recently sat down with "Dateline NBC's" Jane Pauley to talk about that morning.

    PAULEY: Tuesday morning, Senator Hillary Clinton's first thought when the second plane hit was terrorists. Her next thought was Chelsea, who was not only in New York, but staying downtown.

    CLINTON: She'd gone, what she thought would be just a great jog. She was going to go down to Battery Park, she was going to go around the towers. She went to get a cup of coffee and -- and that's when the plane hit.

    PAULEY: She was close enough to hear the rumble.

    CLINTON: She did hear it.

    PAULEY: And to see the smoke in person, not on television.


    Those damn pesky facts tripping you up again!
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You ruin your credibility calling veterans chickenhawks, having never served a single day in the service.
    You of all people suggesting someone, anyone lacks credibility? HILARIOUS.
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    You have no empirical evidence backing up your false assertion. You are simply conjecturing based on a whim...
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    Or maybe "We now understand why women provoke men into hitting them".
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    . Losing insurance does not mean losing healthcare. .

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Thats what Americans want, its not what we have.
    Bwahahahaha You speaking for all Americans....
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    You have no empirical evidence backing up your false assertion. You are simply conjecturing based on a whim...
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    Or maybe "We now understand why women provoke men into hitting them".
    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    . Losing insurance does not mean losing healthcare. .

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Easy as changing my bedpan.
    Im sorry you need a bedpan.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Im sorry you need a bedpan.
    Your apology is accepted.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    You have no empirical evidence backing up your false assertion. You are simply conjecturing based on a whim...
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    Or maybe "We now understand why women provoke men into hitting them".
    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    . Losing insurance does not mean losing healthcare. .

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by SBu View Post
    Now you know my limit. They would have to be pretty darn close to getting their hands on something like that for huge troop interventions to be necessary.

    Containment isn't fast or sexy, but it's the smart move here. I would rather have ISIS with territory and fixed locations that we can monitor and hit as necessary, than an ISIS that scatters to the wind only to set up shop somewhere else.

    ISIS is going to slaughter innocents whether we are involved more or not. And ISIS is not gaining much territory these days, they've expended to the borders of countries and people willing to fight them. If we can contain them and enable the locals and neighboring countries to do just that, we will see this group defeated.

    They have expanded and they have spread and gained more support.....than what has been reported. Only now is the left wing media actually grasping the concept. Huff-Po put out a piece today on how much they have spread.

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