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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by SBu View Post
    This is a marathon, not a sprint. If you are looking for immediate effects, you won't find them.

    I do slightly agree with you that we could be much more aggressive in containing this issue, but what can you do when the administration refuses to call the problem a problem.

    I can see that there's no reason I can speak that will persuade you against sending in troops en masse. I however, still think that is a terrible idea.
    Even in a marathon, running is required.
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

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    Dubya's lies are well documented. Someone could write a book about them. Oh wait, they already have.

    Specifically name one such lie.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    I did not say or even suggest they are close to getting nukes. I was just wondering if you had a point in mind where you thought ISIS was enough of a threat to justify US intervention with ground troops.
    But who knows. Iran is very close to getting nukes. Pakistan has nukes. It's not hard to imagine ISIS at some point getting their hands on nukes(not developing them).



    The similarity is that we have let what started out as a small problem grow into a much bigger threat. In Germany, Most of Europe was too timid to take on the Nazi issue early on and the US stood back and said let them handle it...it's in their own back yard. Today the same thing is happening in regards to ISIS. Most of the middle eastern nations are too cow towed to respond seriously. And the US is again saying: "Let's just contain them." The problem is not going away until ISIS is destroyed as a viable military or terrorist organization.




    As ISIS continues to gain ground and slaughter innocents.
    Now you know my limit. They would have to be pretty darn close to getting their hands on something like that for huge troop interventions to be necessary.

    Containment isn't fast or sexy, but it's the smart move here. I would rather have ISIS with territory and fixed locations that we can monitor and hit as necessary, than an ISIS that scatters to the wind only to set up shop somewhere else.

    ISIS is going to slaughter innocents whether we are involved more or not. And ISIS is not gaining much territory these days, they've expended to the borders of countries and people willing to fight them. If we can contain them and enable the locals and neighboring countries to do just that, we will see this group defeated.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Even in a marathon, running is required.
    We can agree on that.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    A leader would go before the American people and make his case. This means Obama wont.


    ah....

    Let's see....

    Lincoln? Yeah, he kind of held the nation together in a "turbulent time" with speeches like at Gettysburg..

    FDR? Seems he did these radio broadcasts...

    And then, Jimmy Carter and the Iran Hostage Crisis.......! I got the impression America was less than united at that time..

    enter Reagan, the great communicator....

    And who can ever forget the doltish fumbler George W. Bush in his address to a joint session of congress after 911.....As his approval numbers neared 90% or some crazy number I got the distinct impression he had made his case and congress and the nation were more than lukewarm about "chasing them if they run, killing them if hey hide" and "dead or alive" suggestions as a means of combating evil.

    So in review, I'd say you're on to something here!
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What unit did you serve in and which combat theater were you deployed.
    I'm not the war monger.
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    You have no empirical evidence backing up your false assertion. You are simply conjecturing based on a whim...
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Specifically name one such lie.
    Should be easy for him to do, right?

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    You have no empirical evidence backing up your false assertion. You are simply conjecturing based on a whim...
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    Or maybe "We now understand why women provoke men into hitting them".
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Should be easy for him to do, right?
    Easy as changing my bedpan.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    You have no empirical evidence backing up your false assertion. You are simply conjecturing based on a whim...
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    Or maybe "We now understand why women provoke men into hitting them".
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    ah....

    Let's see....

    Lincoln? Yeah, he kind of held the nation together in a "turbulent time" with speeches like at Gettysburg..

    FDR? Seems he did these radio broadcasts...

    And then, Jimmy Carter and the Iran Hostage Crisis.......! I got the impression America was less than united at that time..

    enter Reagan, the great communicator....

    And who can ever forget the doltish fumbler George W. Bush in his address to a joint session of congress after 911.....As his approval numbers neared 90% or some crazy number I got the distinct impression he had made his case and congress and the nation were more than lukewarm about "chasing them if they run, killing them if hey hide" and "dead or alive" suggestions as a means of combating evil.

    So in review, I'd say you're on to something here!
    Thats what Americans want, its not what we have.

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