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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Only in the sense that religion did indeed play a role in both, but they are very different obviously.

    And Japan did indeed target civilians at times, for example the rape of nanking.
    Well yeah...

    Religion played a part in Europe too....the Vatican and Mussolini, Hitler and his hatred for anything not him...all that is part of it.

    Nan Keng was indeed the targeting of civilians, as was the Philipine occupation. But if you want a parallel to 911 and THAT act of terror, perhaps Nagasaki or Hiroshima..

    Please, Nan Keng was not targeted because of religious affiliation and neither was the Philipines,
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Help me out here...

    An eight year old CBS news item about "reports" from an unidentified agent is proof of what exactly? There has been eight years for their to have been some proof of this "report", where is it?

    I am absolutely certain the war on terror creates terrorists, but you have provided nothing concrete to show that.

    And in doing so, can we maybe look at what has happened in the last 7 years? Obama had wars on two fronts, one he declared 'won' and brought the troops home for his coronation. Since then, we have a renewed, far more serious war in Iraq and the war on terror has spread from one country to Libya, Pakistan, Egypt, Syria, Somalia, Yemen and is no where near declining in Afghanistan.

    How is George Bush responsible for that? And if he is, how is it that in 7 years hasn't been able to undo the alleged damage Obama has wrought?
    A 30-page National Intelligence Estimate completed in April cites the "centrality" of the U.S. invasion of Iraq, and the insurgency that has followed, as the leading inspiration for new Islamic extremist networks and cells that are united by little more than an anti-Western agenda. It concludes that, rather than contributing to eventual victory in the global counterterrorism struggle, the situation in Iraq has worsened the U.S. position, according to officials familiar with the classified document.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    I suggest that you take the time to read "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" by William Shirer. When the Nazi problem started, Germany still not recovered from WW! did not have a powerful military. In the early stages of that conflict, France and Great Britain could have whipped Germany. They just did not take the threat seriously until it was on their doorsteps. Millions of innocent jews were getting slaughtered while so-called "containment" option was going on. ISIS is now beheading innocent women, children, and even infants. How bad are you suggesting we let it get before we take the threat seriously? ISIS and Al Queda with nukes?
    Clearly if they would be able to get close to getting nukes, that would force our hand. But that is not the case. To suggest that they are close to getting nukes is irresponsible and doesn't help us clearly work our way through the problem.

    The threat Europe faced in Germany at that time is much more similar to the Russian threat today, and not ISIS. ISIS is really not similar at all to Nazi Germany other than they we both willing to commit atrocities. The powers in the region are capable of dealing with this threat so long as we support them. I still think containment here is the best strategy.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    To the bolded, WOW,
    You know I continue to politely ask you to back up your constant bull**** about George Bush and all I get back is **** like this.

    Wow indeed....as I said before "nice list" 15 request for information and 37 insults

    I think there is a word for that practice -- trolling
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Did you miss where I said we start where it suits our own best interests as all nations do?

    Guinea? For reals?

    The left has a real problem with even recognizing evil exists-its part of the charm of moral relativism.

    Thats the bad news-the good news is that Obama's term is running down and once he's gone (and perhaps earlier if the political winds dictate) we are going back in to kill those mofo's.
    I recognize evil exists, I just don't think it's my personal job to extinguish all evil in the world.

    If you try to justify Iraq on humanitarian grounds alone then there's plenty of other places that could use your help... the list above is where I'd like you to start since you're now the moral arbiter and policemen of the world.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    US spy agencies are all on the left too now, lol. What a failure at critical thinking. Not arm chair warriors such as yourself, but boots on the ground agencies, working at the pleasure of George Bush, produced report after report that US intervention in the Middle East was exacerbating terrorism, and indeed it is far more rampant today then it was in 2000.
    For the moment lets say thats true-then what? Walk on eggshells? Cede Iraq to terrorists and Iran? Appease evil?

    Not good enough.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

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    whomever the next POTUS is will have to deal with them.
    She will.....
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Well yeah...

    Religion played a part in Europe too....the Vatican and Mussolini, Hitler and his hatred for anything not him...all that is part of it.

    Nan Keng was indeed the targeting of civilians, as was the Philipine occupation. But if you want a parallel to 911 and THAT act of terror, perhaps Nagasaki or Hiroshima..

    Please, Nan Keng was not targeted because of religious affiliation and neither was the Philipines,
    Im saying there was a similarity, they aren't the same.

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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    You know I continue to politely ask you to back up your constant bull**** about George Bush and all I get back is **** like this.

    Wow indeed....as I said before "nice list" 15 request for information and 37 insults

    I think there is a word for that practice -- trolling
    Go back to the thread in which you said "nice list" and take a look at the very nice list I provided you.
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    Re: George W. Bush Is Intervening in Iraq—Again

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    I suggest that you take the time to read "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" by William Shirer. When the Nazi problem started, Germany still not recovered from WW! did not have a powerful military. In the early stages of that conflict, France and Great Britain could have whipped Germany. They just did not take the threat seriously until it was on their doorsteps. Millions of innocent jews were getting slaughtered while so-called "containment" option was going on. ISIS is now beheading innocent women, children, and even infants. How bad are you suggesting we let it get before we take the threat seriously? ISIS and Al Queda with nukes?
    Now that is a perfectly appropriate parallel. Your assertions are further supported in later works by Shirer and especially a biography of Chamberlain.

    It has also been asserted that even Shirer was mistaken about the power of the third Reich even after the invasion of Poland in 1939.
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