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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Why does he go to his waistband prior to raising both arms towards the cops? What...you think thats where he keeps his rosary?
    He doesn't.


    That's natural reflexes and motor system body response to the threat. hands come up in a defensive way and the vitals recoil away from the threat.
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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Not quite how that works. Officers have to make a split second decision based on what is occuring. They do not have the ability to watch, as you did, a video a bunch of times to determine what decision to make. The guy's a ****ing dummy for, first throwing rocks at the cops.. Then running.. and for finally turning around and, probably based on what I see, getting ready to pouind them with another rock. Again, though, the cops just see a guy turning around in a aggressive manner with no idea what his intentions are in real time with adrenalin running. Some in the community will whine.. but the cops will not face chages and will be back at their jobs.

    Really? so shooting at the dood running away in a crowded intersection is a "split second decision"?
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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Why does he go to his waistband prior to raising both arms towards the cops? What...you think thats where he keeps his rosary?
    I think you are subjectively interpreting this motion from the angle viewed. Why would he do this in order to provoke a lethal response if he actually had no weapon ? Why did the police then shoot him multiple times when it must have been obvious he had no weapon in his hand from their far closer vantage ?

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    From a witness:

    Witness questions fatal shooting of rock-throwing man by Pasco police | The Today File | Seattle Times



    If that is correct and he does have some mental issues, then it's another instance of that not being properly dealt with. But rocks are weapons and he could have hurt someone. I agree though it could have been handled differently.
    A rock can kill if it hits you in the head.

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    He doesn't.


    That's natural reflexes and motor system body response to the threat. hands come up in a defensive way and the vitals recoil away from the threat.
    No it is not. You have to be HONEST and report what actually happened. He turns. His hands are already out front. He reaches with both hands into his waistband. He pulls both hands together and towards the cops. He presents as a threat. He is shot.

    I completely agree they shouldnt have shot the FIRST time. The second time was absolutely justified based solely on his actions.

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I think you are subjectively interpreting this motion from the angle viewed. Why would he do this in order to provoke a lethal response if he actually had no weapon ? Why did the police then shoot him multiple times when it must have been obvious he had no weapon in his hand from their far closer vantage ?
    Why do people do such a thing? Because they want the elicited response?

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    No it is not. You have to be HONEST and report what actually happened. He turns. His hands are already out front. He reaches with both hands into his waistband. He pulls both hands together and towards the cops. He presents as a threat. He is shot.

    I completely agree they shouldnt have shot the FIRST time. The second time was absolutely justified based solely on his actions.


    nonsense, try to tickle a child at thier belly who is ticklish. you'll get the same auto-motor response.
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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Why do people do such a thing? Because they want the elicited response?


    this is not the same thing at all.... Then again, why did this cop shoot this guy because he took his hands out, as commanded? but I don't really have an issue with this one, there was a report of people flashing a gun, he matched the description and behaved like he had something.
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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    nonsense, try to tickle a child at thier belly who is ticklish. you'll get the same auto-motor response.
    This wasnt a child being tickled.This was a man running from the cops that then stopped, turned to face the cops with outstretched hands, then reached into his waistband and raised both arms towards the cops. The video is clear...its not even speculative as to his actions. You can question the internal motivations of someone that was reported to be mentally challenged all you like, but you CANNOT question his actions. They are on video.

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    this is not the same thing at all.... Then again, why did this cop shoot this guy because he took his hands out, as commanded? but I don't really have an issue with this one, there was a report of people flashing a gun, he matched the description and behaved like he had something.
    Absolutely. FOr some crazy reason, he behaved like he had one and the cop responded. The cop shouldnt have to wait until after he or she is shot before they respond and based on the preponderance of circumstance, should be authorized to act, with lethal force if necessary.

    That EXACTLY describes the Washington state shooting.

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