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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    This is exactly what I have been thinking for a long time now. It seems like it's getting to the point where if there is a chance the officer might suffer a slight contusion to his pinkie toe then it's a-okay to whip out the Glock and start emptying clips.
    Yes, when a cop is chasing a fleeing suspect.. Who may/may not have a gun.. The suspect then turns in a threatening manner, the cops can react as they did. They do not have to wait to actually get shot. Blame the dummy for turning around and trying to engage with armed police in such a manner.

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I just noticed in slow motion when they shot him, the shots went in time with a saying in Spanish, that I probably can't post here but is really offensive. It's the same melody as "shave and a haircut".
    I don't know the offensive version you are speaking of, but you're right. You can make out the shave and a hair cut two bits in time with the shots.

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Murder. Homicide. Whatever. Hand movement is now justifiable reason to kill.

    What a wonderful world this could be. So glad we can value human life and justice.
    Keep in mind we've heard nothing of the cop side and this video only shows the end of the exchange. There's a lot of context to this that we don't know yet. But I will tell you one thing, had the man not been throwing rocks at police in the first place, he wouldn't be dead. Dare I say, in most situations, cops tell you to get on the ground, so had he of just done that, he'd not been dead.

    Again though, there's more that will come out.

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Zoomed in shows it even more clearly. Stop at 17. Then frame it at 18 and 19.
    Looks more to me like he was pleading for mercy by putting his hands together in a faux prayer fashion and it was also clear even at this distance that he had no gun. These officers should be tried for murder

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Looks more to me like he was pleading for mercy by putting his hands together in a faux prayer fashion. These officers should be tried for murder
    Come now...be honest. What you just stated is a completely ridiculous reading of the events.

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Did they know this prior? Still not an excuse for how this went down, but I wonder what thier mindset was to think this was ok.
    He was just released from their jail a day before.

    Keep in mind...to day we have no idea what they were called to respond to and that the video does not show them using the taser on the man to attempt to subdue him.

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Come now...be honest. What you just stated is a completely ridiculous reading of the events.
    I hardly think so given these officers were far closer than the camera was and what was happening was pretty obvious to me. The guy clearly had no gun in his hand and the force used here was criminally excessive as ex police officers posting here have already stated
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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    This is a debate forum, people have opinions thats kinda how this **** works. *shrug*
    I'm promoting debate, I'm objecting to witch-hunts. As you can see in this very thread, discussions linked to specific, unresolved incidents tend to lead to the latter. I'm suggesting that if you really want a rational discussion about the actual issues and policies involved, it would be much more constructive to have them independently of individual incidents. If you really want a rational discussion about a specific incident, it would be much more constrictive to have it after as much of the relevant evidence as possible is publically available.

    This isn't personal by the way. You were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    10 seconds?

    Let us not prejudge the evidence please by exaggerating. We do not see what led up to the what I presume to be the first volley of fire. But that's meaningless as is what they said. Nor does the suspected crime.

    They were shooting at him when he had his back turned. There was no "object" at all in evidence in his hand and only a pro-cop would even think to say the man turning to face his attackers with his hands out in defense was an "aggressive gesture". You break this down frame by frame and view with an eye experienced in video and you get a story not consistent with the cops' version.

    My first question if on a jury would be about 'use of force' guidelines and whether they were followed and why the heavy artillery came out in the first place with a platoon of cops around. Lethal force seems to have been the first line of response instead of the last
    Had you of read just a couple of more posts you'd of seen this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    The video only shows 10 seconds of the exchange. At this moment, we have no context of the situation, how long it lasted, or even if the cops told him to halt when bolted. In other words, let's not jump to conclusions like we did with Ferguson...
    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    did you watch at around the 20 second mark?
    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Ah no I didn't, heard the gun shots in at that mark and just thought that was it. Well my bad.
    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I did that too at first.
    Hellhound corrected me.

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    He was just released from their jail a day before.

    Keep in mind...to day we have no idea what they were called to respond to and that the video does not show them using the taser on the man to attempt to subdue him.

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    Mid sized metropolitan area? I doubt these particular officers had any idea about him.
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