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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Do we know if he had any priors? That sort of thing is important in these cases.
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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    From that view, his hands were empty.

    He put them up in almost a pleading manner...... ALMOST a pleading manner.


    pleading, but brain is telling him to go fetal, it's a motor system defensive position.....
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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Do we know if he had any priors? That sort of thing is important in these cases.
    Assaulting a police officer for one.

    Video seems to show man fleeing as police in Washington state shoot him - LA Times

    Pasco Police Capt. Ken Roske told the Los Angeles Times that Zambrano-Montes was known to the department and had a criminal record. He said Zambrano-Montes was charged with assault on a Pasco police officer in January 2014.
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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I disagree, I watched it at full screen he's running away with his hands out as he turns his hands come in and out but there is no grabbing motion now could that have confused the police, maybe. but I don't think he could have done anything to not be shot down at that point except lay on the ground, but clear thinking goes out the window when people are shootinig at you.



    edit to add, watching the video again, his hands go into a defensive position, not reaching for anything.
    He very clearly moves both hands to his waistband and then extends both arms outward.

    As an observer, I buy that he is mentally ill and that even in a panicked state he thought he could scare them off. Or maybe he wasnt all that crazy and it was a SBC incident. First set of shots in my mind...not justified. Second set...absolutely justified. Overall mishandled. But then...we only see about 22 seconds of the total incident.

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post


    Charged?
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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by Utility Man View Post
    Zoom zoom.

    Zoomed in shows it even more clearly. Stop at 17. Then frame it at 18 and 19.

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    The video only shows 10 seconds of the exchange. At this moment, we have no context of the situation, how long it lasted, or even if the cops told him to halt when bolted. In other words, let's not jump to conclusions like we did with Ferguson...
    Yeah ... maybe the man deserved to be murdered.
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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Charged?
    It had more but was vague on the aftermath of the charge but I did uncover this:

    Man shot by Pasco police identified; protestors picket City Hall | Crime & court news | Tri-CityHerald.com

    Police had been called to North Eighth Avenue and West Bonneville Street at 10:49 p.m. on Jan. 16, 2014, for reports of a man walking around and hitting cars with a broom. Zambrano-Montes was found “making a commotion” on the front porch of a North Seventh Avenue home, according to court documents.

    He picked up a rocking chair and tried to throw it at Officer Adam Brewster, then grabbed a mailbox and post and threw those. Brewster had to duck to avoid being hit in the head.

    Zambrano-Montes ran from Brewster and Officer Jeffrey Cobb, then turned around, grabbed onto Brewster’s belt and put his hand around the officer’s service pistol, documents said. Brewster tried head-butting Zambrano-Montes in the right temple to incapacitate him, but it had no visible effect.

    Zambrano-Montes was taken to the ground and continued to struggle with the two officers while grabbing onto Brewster’s pistol in an attempt to get it out of the holster, documents said. Cobb then shot him with a Taser and they were able to handcuff him.

    He was taken to Lourdes Medical Center, where he reportedly admitted in the emergency room that he’d been using methamphetamines, documents said.

    He pleaded guilty in June, acknowledging that his actions were not in self-defense, and was sentenced to six months in county jail. The standard range for the crime is three to nine months.
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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    It had more but was vague on the aftermath of the charge but I did uncover this:

    Man shot by Pasco police identified; protestors picket City Hall | Crime & court news | Tri-CityHerald.com


    Did they know this prior? Still not an excuse for how this went down, but I wonder what thier mindset was to think this was ok.
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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Yeah ... maybe man deserved to be murdered.
    Cops see a man turn and his hands move is going to make them react. It's not murder.

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