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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Yeah, looks the same to me. He was in the process of a throwing motion. I believe one of the witnesses had indicated he had two rocks.. but had only thrown one at the police. Likely it was another rock. I don't see the reach to the waistband either.. but considering the cops wouldn't have had nearly the time we did.. It's very possible they thought that his hands did go there.
    Throw?

    if he played slow pitch softball maybe.


    It's very possible they thought that his hands did go there.

    This will be key, if they "thought" this, it may be ruled justified, but they should be dealt with for discharging thier firearms on a fleeing suspect in the middle of a busy intersection.
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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

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    Throw?

    if he played slow pitch softball maybe.
    Not really. He was getting ready to rock back to throw something overhand but got shot near the beginning of his windup. I'm more likely to blame the stupid asshole that decided he would trun around in a manner that can be read as aggressive when being chased by cops than the cops who were just defending themselves from said asshole.

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Not really. He was getting ready to rock back to throw something overhand but got shot near the beginning of his windup. I'm more likely to blame the stupid asshole that decided he would trun around in a manner that can be read as aggressive when being chased by cops than the cops who were just defending themselves from said asshole.
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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Not really. He was getting ready to rock back to throw something overhand but got shot near the beginning of his windup. I'm more likely to blame the stupid asshole that decided he would trun around in a manner that can be read as aggressive when being chased by cops than the cops who were just defending themselves from said asshole.


    What about the "stupid asshole" cops who fired shots at this "stupid asshole" running away?



    And no, that speculation regarding wind up, does not match the video.
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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Oh dear!!
    Not sure what the oh dear was about.. but if about the word asshole, I guess it's acceptable here. I truly expected it to be automatically astericked.

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    What about the "stupid asshole" cops who fired shots at this "stupid asshole" running away?
    At the very beginning? Don't have nearly enough information to judge that. Neither do you.

    And no, that speculation regarding wind up, does not match the video.
    And yes.. It does. It's almost certainly what he was doing. The video makes that pretty clear. Brings his hands together, starts to wind up then gets shot. You'll see, when this is all done, they will confirm that. I suspect they will also say the officers had no idea what he had in his hand, just like Quanell X said - but that is far more speculative then the wind up to throw something.

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    a "righteous shooting"? it was a gunfight that started in the middle of a busy intersection full of people, women, and children. The dead d00d didn't have a gun. That's the bottom line here.
    I said the shooting in the intersection was 'wrong'...didnt I? And you yourself said the presence of a gun isnt necessary to justify a shooting when the cops shot the dumbass in Utah. Essentially the same scenario.

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    At the very beginning? Don't have nearly enough information to judge that. Neither do you.

    I don't have enough information to judge that discharging your weapon in a heavily populated area on a fleeing suspect is not an "asshole" thing to do?


    Really?


    And yes.. It does. It's almost certainly what he was doing. The video makes that pretty clear. Brings his hands together, starts to wind up then gets shot. You'll see, when this is all done, they will confirm that. I suspect they will also say the officers had no idea what he had in his hand, just like Quanell X said - but that is far more speculative then the wind up to throw something.

    Nonsense hands out as he's running, turns around in an almost pleading recoiling manner, hands get thrown out as defensive. That's what it looks like to me. But yes, I think on the second part all the cops have to claim is they feared for thier lives.

    on the first part, they should be fired for endangering the public for no good reason.
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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I said the shooting in the intersection was 'wrong'...didnt I? And you yourself said the presence of a gun isnt necessary to justify a shooting when the cops shot the dumbass in Utah. Essentially the same scenario.


    No, the one in utah there was a report of a gun, that kid was acting like he had one and behaved as if he was going for one.

    This guy did not do that, plain and simple.


    There was no report of a gun, just rocks.
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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I don't have enough information to judge that discharging your weapon in a heavily populated area on a fleeing suspect is not an "asshole" thing to do?


    Really?
    Really. Do you know if he was putting others lives in danger, pulling a weapon? What the intiial call that caused them to respond indicated? Anything else? I don't.

    Nonsense hands out as he's running, turns around in an almost pleading recoiling manner, hands get thrown out as defensive. That's what it looks like to me. But yes, I think on the second part all the cops have to claim is they feared for thier lives.
    Well, you are wrong.. but I will say.. The fact that we have this video in slow motion and zoomed in and still can't agree... is proof that the cops can be expected to be even far less certain in real time as to what he was doing.

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