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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Washington must of taken notes from the IDF.


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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You watched it in slow mo...cool. Tell me...does he have his hands extended? Does he move both hands to his waistband (he quite clearly does) and then does he again extend his arms in what can very easily be assumed a shooting stance? Or do you too feel he was suddenly defending himself from the imaginary tickle monster?
    My opinion in regards to those both has already been stated. You are both wrong.
    He did not reach into his waistband. His hand didn't even touch it.
    His body shifts position when he lifts his leg which makes it appear that his hands are closer to his body than they actually are. This can be confirmed from the continuous motion of his hands.
    At the point in question he appears to be readjusting his grasp on what is already in his hand, which then falls out of his hand as he is shot.





    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Yeah, looks the same to me. He was in the process of a throwing motion. I believe one of the witnesses had indicated he had two rocks.. but had only thrown one at the police. Likely it was another rock. I don't see the reach to the waistband either.. but considering the cops wouldn't have had nearly the time we did.. It's very possible they thought that his hands did go there.
    Their point of view was closer and more direct. From what I see from the video, that would not be something they would have thought as his hands remained away from his body.
    Likely they saw him shifting his grasp on the object and lifting his leg which would be an indication he is going to throw it. Which is a threat.
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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    My opinion in regards to those both has already been stated. You are both wrong.
    He did not reach into his waistband. His hand didn't even touch it.
    His body shifts position when he lifts his leg which makes it appear that his hands are closer to his body than they actually are. This can be confirmed from the continuous motion of his hands.
    At the point in question he appears to be readjusting his grasp on what is already in his hand, which then falls out of his hand as he is shot.





    Their point of view was closer and more direct. From what I see from the video, that would not be something they would have thought as his hands remained away from his body.
    Likely they saw him shifting his grasp on the object and lifting his leg which would be an indication he is going to throw it. Which is a threat.
    Hands extended out, hands reach towards waistband, hands extend out in shooting stance. There is no other way to see it. Wait...rev gave one. The giant tickle monster got him and he momentarily defended himself.

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Washington must of taken notes from the IDF.
    Nice...a little random anti-semitic slur slid in for good measure. Why not.

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Hands extended out, hands reach towards waistband, hands extend out in shooting stance. There is no other way to see it. Wait...rev gave one. The giant tickle monster got him and he momentarily defended himself.
    No VanceMack. His hands did not go to his waistband. His body shifted when he lifted his leg making it appear his hands were closer to his body than they are. This is shown by the continuous motion of his hands.


    Here is the the slo-mo version buck posted earlier.
    If you do not have the HTML5 version of the player, enable it to get speed controls so you can slow it down even further.

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Nice...a little random anti-semitic slur slid in for good measure. Why not.
    Oh for Christ's sake, talk about no where to run!!!! Pointing out the heavy handedness of the Israeli military does not equate to anti-semitism. Is critique of Israeli policy off the table with you. You guys attempt to shut down criticism of Israel by playing the anti-semitism card just as you accuse the left of attempting to shut down criticism of Obama by playing the race card. Both fail!!!!!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Oh for Christ's sake, talk about no where to run!!!! Pointing out the heavy handedness of the Israeli military does not equate to anti-semitism. Is critique of Israeli policy off the table with you. You guys attempt to shut down criticism of Israel by playing the anti-semitism card just as you accuse the left of attempting to shut down criticism of Obama by playing the race card. Both fail!!!!!
    Sure sir. The house has no objections if others choose to double down as well. Hey...pit boss...double down jew hatred on table 5.

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Sure sir. The house has no objections if others choose to double down as well. Hey...pit boss...double down jew hatred on table 5.
    It's ok, tuck your shirt back in.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Nice...a little random anti-semitic slur slid in for good measure. Why not.
    Nothing I said was anti-semeitc.


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    Re: Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    His hands are out, dart to his waistband and then dart out again. In the span of 1 second and while he turned to face the cops.

    No doubt...I have no desire to be a cop. Absolute reality is that I spent 6 years being the person in between the cops and the crisis situation. I relate more to the prisoners I worked with than the probation officers. I have demonstrated that I am not blindly pro cop. Even in this incident I clearly stated they were wrong to shoot at him when he was throwing rocks. The second part? Thats a righteous shooting. You dont see it because you dont want to see it. Not much you can do when you the blind refuse to see.

    a "righteous shooting"? it was a gunfight that started in the middle of a busy intersection full of people, women, and children. The dead d00d didn't have a gun. That's the bottom line here.
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