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    Re: Ceasefire agreed for eastern Ukraine after Minsk summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    The words of a corrupt criminal leader is Putin's justification for destroying half of Ukraine? Pathetic!
    Lol, destroying half of Ukraine.
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    Re: Ceasefire agreed for eastern Ukraine after Minsk summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    None of what you said justifies what Putin has done in Ukraine.
    Yeah, I know you think that. But obviously he doesn't.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Ceasefire agreed for eastern Ukraine after Minsk summit

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Thats simply a re statement of your opinion. Where are the facts linking this US backing of the Maidan protesters and I'm asking you how they were they supposedly backed ?



    And I'll keep asking it until you provide the evidence because its fundamental to your whole 'blame it all on the US' position here



    Given his own cabinet had even abandoned him before his overthrow why would the US back him ?
    Same old bs. I'll get with you when you've got something on Putin.
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    Re: Ceasefire agreed for eastern Ukraine after Minsk summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Same old bs. I'll get with you when you've got something on Putin.
    And your same old evasion .So you in fact have no evidence the US backed the Maidan protesters in any meaningful way whatsoever. OK

    Meanwhile something on your idol for you to mull over

    https://larussophobe.wordpress.com/putinmurders/
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    Re: Ceasefire agreed for eastern Ukraine after Minsk summit

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    OK then how did the US back the protesters in ANY way whatsoever ? How did it get them to face down Yanukovyches guns unarmed and how often do I need to keep asking this question ?
    As should any free thinking individual on earth !
    Nuland and co had nothing to do with the Maidan protesters and nothing to do with the subsequent two elections results last year. I dare you to prove me wrong ?
    Only natural you say !?
    Naked armed aggression is never that, so those sort of comments are simply flaming now frankly
    I appreciate your efforts, but you are wasting your time. Montecresto starts from the presupposition that "The US is Wrong", and works from there.

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    Re: Ceasefire agreed for eastern Ukraine after Minsk summit

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I appreciate your efforts, but you are wasting your time. Montecresto starts from the presupposition that "The US is Wrong", and works from there.
    And where does cp begin? The US is right, I'm sure. Guess you wanted in this.


    A now confirmed taped phone call between the Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet and European Union Foreign Affairs Minister Catherine Ashton, originally reported by a Russian press agency and then in the British Guardian and other newspapers, reveals Paet’s view that forces among the Maidan protesters had orchestrated the deadly sniper fire on Feb. 20. Paet stated in the taped conversation that “the same snipers [were] killing people from both sides. … There is now stronger and stronger understanding that behind the snipers, it was not Yanukovych, but it was somebody from the new coalition.” The call took place after the Estonian foreign minister had visited Kiev on Feb. 25, at the height of the Maidan protests. The Estonian government later denied that Paet “was giving an assessment of the opposition’s involvement in the violence.” There is little doubt, however, that U.S. officials have applied pressure on the Estonians to “reinterpret” the tape.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/...-ukraine-coup/

    And this phone conversation.

    The 11-minute conversation was posted on YouTube – it is the second time in a month that telephone calls between western diplomats discussing Ukraine have been bugged.

    In the call, Paet said he had been told snipers responsible for killing police and civilians in Kiev last month were protest movement provocateurs rather than supporters of then-president Viktor Yanukovych. Ashton responds: "I didn't know … Gosh."

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ton-urmas-paet
    Last edited by Montecresto; 02-20-15 at 08:07 PM.
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    Re: Ceasefire agreed for eastern Ukraine after Minsk summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And where does cp begin? The US is right, I'm sure.
    Nope. We've done stupid plenty of times.

    Guess you wanted in this.


    A now confirmed taped phone call between the Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet and European Union Foreign Affairs Minister Catherine Ashton, originally reported by a Russian press agency and then in the British Guardian and other newspapers, reveals Paet’s view that forces among the Maidan protesters had orchestrated the deadly sniper fire on Feb. 20. Paet stated in the taped conversation that “the same snipers [were] killing people from both sides. … There is now stronger and stronger understanding that behind the snipers, it was not Yanukovych, but it was somebody from the new coalition.” The call took place after the Estonian foreign minister had visited Kiev on Feb. 25, at the height of the Maidan protests. The Estonian government later denied that Paet “was giving an assessment of the opposition’s involvement in the violence.” There is little doubt, however, that U.S. officials have applied pressure on the Estonians to “reinterpret” the tape.


    Oh well, you caught them, no doubt. An Estonian minister was originally reported in Russian press that there is "a stronger understanding" that snipers are "from someone who isn't Yanukovych". Clearly this was a combined CIA/Mossad/Illuminati operation



    well, what'd you expect.

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    Re: Ceasefire agreed for eastern Ukraine after Minsk summit

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Nope. We've done stupid plenty of times.





    Oh well, you caught them, no doubt. An Estonian minister was originally reported in Russian press that there is "a stronger understanding" that snipers are "from someone who isn't Yanukovych". Clearly this was a combined CIA/Mossad/Illuminati operation





    well, what'd you expect.
    Think you missed the Gaurdian.
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    Re: Ceasefire agreed for eastern Ukraine after Minsk summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Think you missed the Gaurdian.
    Oh, good point. The Guardian picked up a Russian story that an Estonian minister had heard some rumors which didn't even directly implicate the US, much less provide any evidence whatsoever of your idiotic contention

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    Re: Ceasefire agreed for eastern Ukraine after Minsk summit

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Oh, good point. The Guardian picked up a Russian story that an Estonian minister had heard some rumors which didn't even directly implicate the US, much less provide any evidence whatsoever of your idiotic contention
    You've listened to the conversation then.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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