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    Re: Ceasefire agreed for eastern Ukraine after Minsk summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Simple. It provides him an out for folks who grasp at the most tenuous of straws.
    Oh, it's a Putin out.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Ceasefire agreed for eastern Ukraine after Minsk summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    You and I both know steel that the US went into Iraq for multiple reasons. Of course, had everything gone as the US planned, all those innocent children never would of died because the US would of been out of there shortly after establishing a new government. But if you are going to talk about all the innocents killed, make sure you mention the majority of those killed in the conflict was due to sectarian strife and civil war. You can argue the US made a bad move in removing Hussein because he kept the radicals in check, but there's no way in hell you can argue that he was good for the majority Shiite or the Kurds for that matter.

    And before you're dumb enough to step into "ITZ ALLZ FOR OILZ!!!" shtick, you might want to have a gander at where the majority of the oil goes to.
    The point is that the U.S. did not kill those innocent children for their own good. We did not go there for the good of all involved.

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    Re: Ceasefire agreed for eastern Ukraine after Minsk summit

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I don't doubt the government do this but its some way short of killing people
    Obama kills people without a trial and says that anyone standing near them who is killed is not a civilian.

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    Re: Ceasefire agreed for eastern Ukraine after Minsk summit

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Obama kills people without a trial and says that anyone standing near them who is killed is not a civilian.
    Which reporter did he do this to ?

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    Re: Ceasefire agreed for eastern Ukraine after Minsk summit

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Which reporter did he do this to ?
    Did I say he did it to a reporter?

    BTW, with respect to reporters:

    Bush claim revives al-Jazeera bombing fears | Media | The Guardian

    Claims that George Bush planned to bomb the Arabic TV news station al-Jazeera have fuelled concerns that an attack on the broadcaster's Baghdad offices during the war on Iraq was deliberate.

    An international journalists group today demanded "complete disclosure" from the British and American governments over reports that the US considered attacking the al-Jazeera HQ in the Qatar capital, Doha.

    The International Federation of Journalists claimed that 16 journalists and other media staff have died at the hands of US forces in Iraq, adding that the deaths had not been properly investigated.

    Al-Jazeera cameraman Tarek Ayoub was killed when the station's Baghdad office was bombed during a US air raid on April 8 2003. On the same day a US tank shelled the Palestine hotel in the Iraqi capital, killing two other journalists.

    "Reports that George Bush and Tony Blair discussed a plan to bomb al-Jazeera reinforce concerns that the US attack in Baghdad on April 8 [2003] was deliberate targeting of the media," said Aidan White, the general secretary of the IFJ.

    "If that is the case then the US is guilty of a gross violation of international humanitarian law and on the face of it the murder of an innocent journalist.

    "The evidence is stacking up to suggest that the US decided to take out al-Jazeera in Baghdad, as a warning not only to them but to other media about their coverage. If true, it is an absolute scandal that the US administration can regard the staff of al-Jazeera as a bunch of terrorists and a legitimate target."

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    Re: Ceasefire agreed for eastern Ukraine after Minsk summit

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Obama kills people without a trial and says that anyone standing near them who is killed is not a civilian.
    Right, and with the blessing of the right. In fact the only time the right doesn't criticise Obama is when he's killing people. Or if he's not doing more of it, Syria, then he'll be criticised.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Ceasefire agreed for eastern Ukraine after Minsk summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Right, and with the blessing of the right. In fact the only time the right doesn't criticise Obama is when he's killing people. Or if he's not doing more of it, Syria, then he'll be criticised.
    Yeah they don't seem to have a problem with that type of stuff. But when I say I got some free birth control pills because of the ACA they get all upset. It makes you wonder.

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    Re: Ceasefire agreed for eastern Ukraine after Minsk summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Oh, it's a Putin out.
    Certainly. Only a few independents remain. Most have either been closed or nationalized by the state. Blogs above a certain level of hits are required to register with the state.

    Russia enacts 'draconian' law for bloggers and online media


    Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet. -- Marine Corps General James 'Chaos' Mattis

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    Re: Ceasefire agreed for eastern Ukraine after Minsk summit

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Did I say he did it to a reporter?

    BTW, with respect to reporters:

    Bush claim revives al-Jazeera bombing fears | Media | The Guardian
    Gary Webb, the reporter for the San Jose Mercury News, who blew the lid off of Reagan's Iran/Contra (drug/gun running) scandal, which fingered Ollie North, and forced a 400 page admission by the CIA, had his life ruined. Was working on more of the story when he was found dead in his apartment, shot twice in the head, and it was ruled a suicide!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Ceasefire agreed for eastern Ukraine after Minsk summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Gary Webb, the reporter for the San Jose Mercury News, who blew the lid off of Reagan's Iran/Contra (drug/gun running) scandal, which fingered Ollie North, and forced a 400 page admission by the CIA, had his life ruined. Was working on more of the story when he was found dead in his apartment, shot twice in the head, and it was ruled a suicide!
    Yeah I remember that. Poor guy. That is so unfortunate.

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