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    Re: Cruz introduces bill defending states' rights on marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    There is no "slippery slope" and there is no reason to think that current bans on incest and polygamy will be declared unconstitutional. I'm afraid those that believe so are just showing their bigotry against SSM.
    I've yet to hear an argument for allowing SSM that couldn't be applied to polygamy or incest.

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    Re: Cruz introduces bill defending states' rights on marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Let me sum this up because I'm not going to go over the same points again:

    You have a right to be Gay in the US, you do not have the right to Gay Marriage.
    what does that statement change? marriage is a right
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    Re: Cruz introduces bill defending states' rights on marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    That's changing thankfully.
    I want them to have the ability, it's clearly a form of discrimination for government to favor one form of marriage over the other. It's just the consequences that we'll have to deal with that makes it less savory..

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    what does that statement change? marriage is a right
    Marriage is a right? Must of missed that in the Constitution.

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    Re: Cruz introduces bill defending states' rights on marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Let me sum this up because I'm not going to go over the same points again:

    You have a right to be Gay in the US, you do not have the right to Gay Marriage.
    Demonstrably untrue in 37 states now.

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    Re: Cruz introduces bill defending states' rights on marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    I dont totally disagree but is that his end game? just making the religious extremist and right fringe happy?
    Not that I think he ever had a shot but does he not care to be POTUS?
    There are plenty of fundies who would vote for him for POTUS, but because he's a one-sided candidate, aiming at an ever-shrinking audience, this is why the Republicans fail so often, they only put up religious wingnut candidates that the wider secular voters wouldn't look at for a moment. The Republicans will continue to fail until they get it through their heads that religion isn't going to win elections.
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    Re: Cruz introduces bill defending states' rights on marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I've yet to hear an argument for allowing SSM that couldn't be applied to polygamy or incest.
    you keep saying this yet none exist solely based on SSM . . not one. . .this is why you can't provide any

    people can apply anything they want doesn't mean it will be base on legality, facts or precedence

    people argue illegal discrimination is actually legal for many reason doesnt mean it holds water lol
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    Re: Cruz introduces bill defending states' rights on marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    There are plenty of fundies who would vote for him for POTUS, but because he's a one-sided candidate, aiming at an ever-shrinking audience, this is why the Republicans fail so often, they only put up religious wingnut candidates that the wider secular voters wouldn't look at for a moment. The Republicans will continue to fail until they get it through their heads that religion isn't going to win elections.
    Funny, it didn't seem to hurt them in 2014...

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    Re: Cruz introduces bill defending states' rights on marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Funny, it didn't seem to hurt them in 2014...
    Because nobody voted for Republicans, they voted against Democrats.
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    Re: Cruz introduces bill defending states' rights on marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    There are plenty of fundies who would vote for him for POTUS, but because he's a one-sided candidate, aiming at an ever-shrinking audience, this is why the Republicans fail so often, they only put up religious wingnut candidates that the wider secular voters wouldn't look at for a moment. The Republicans will continue to fail until they get it through their heads that religion isn't going to win elections.
    oh im sure he'd get votes, the extremists and hardcore boter will simply vote for thier own no matter what, thats true of all parties but he wont be president

    and yes even as a person of religion, any platform that forces religion will never get my vote
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    Re: Cruz introduces bill defending states' rights on marriage

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    Cruz introduces bill defending states' rights on marriage - CNN.com



    wow what a waste of time and money, also nothing like making sure you wont be president either lol Equal rights is coming bigots . .. give it up

    again im not saying this one topic SHOULD decide who could be president but any candidate that comes out against equal rights and they make it "PART OF THEIR CAMPAIGN AND RUNNING PLATFORM" is sure to lose lol

    its just the way politics will be in 2016

    lastly traditional marriage is in no danger by equal rights, its a made up subjective thing, it wont be impacted at all

    next "the obama administration forcing it"? It doesnt get any dumber than that.

    good lord
    the war is over but its entertaining seeing the last desperate attempts of bigotry, it shows peoples true colors
    I'll bet Cruz has a different opinion on state's rights for marijuana...

    He is throwing out red meat to an ever decreasing base of rabid folks.
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