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    Re: Scott Walker side steps foreign policy questions on UK trip

    What's wrong with punting on a question? I wish politicians weren't so damn scared of acknowledging they aren't experts in all fields and all subjects. The most dangerous people are those who are ill-informed but certain they are right.

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    Re: Scott Walker side steps foreign policy questions on UK trip

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh wow! Another liberal progressive predicting that their opposition has no chance TWO YEARS before an election....Fail.
    So you think the Koch brothers will be able to get Walker elected president? I don't think so.

    But the more we learn about Charles and David Koch’s sway with top Republican leaders, thanks to embarrassing leaks from their June retreat, the clearer it is that attacks by Reid and other Democrats are justified and proportionate.

    Also clear: Wisconsin is ground zero in the battle over whether the Kochs’ vision of a low-tax, union-free neo-feudalism prevails, and Gov. Scott Walker is a wholly owned Koch subsidiary.

    On Wednesday we heard Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell thank the Kochs “for the important work you’re doing,” adding, “I don’t know where we’d be without you.” Then he promised to shut down the government again to force spending and regulatory cuts – clearly Reid was right when he said last year’s shutdown was on the Kochs — and block action on the minimum wage, extended unemployment insurance and the student loan crisis.

    On Thursday in the Huffington Post we learned that Republican Governors Association director Phil Cox told the Kochs and their friends that he has “no stronger partner” than the Koch-funded Americans for Prosperity. And nowhere has that partnership paid more dividends than in Wisconsin.

    Not only did the Kochs’ investment in Walker pay off on Election Day 2010 and in his 2011 recall, Cox assured his patrons, it resulted in the achievement of one of their dearest goals: a decline in public sector union membership.
    Secret audio nails Scott Walker! A humiliating suck-up to the Koch brothers - Salon.com

    Yep. Looks like Republicans are all about giving the rich all the money and letting them trickle it back down to everyone else. I think that is going to be a rather tough sell.

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    Re: Scott Walker--Embarrassment to America

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    I know the standard for scientific inquiry. I just cant see how you are applying it to evolution as opposed to faith. They are in two separate categories of inquiry, they don't oppose. For you to argue that they do is evidence that you understand neither.
    Faith is fine...keep it the hell out of science and out of public schools.
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    Re: Scott Walker--Embarrassment to America

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Did you bother to read the article? He was addressing Chatham House and discussing domestic and foreign trade policies. It was not a public forum and meet and greet.

    Maybe a better question might be asked as to why the 'media' descended to ask such a stupid question in that forum. Sounds like the UK is about on par with the US media, though a few slight notches lower than TMZ.
    No, it was actually a great question. Europe have a heightened awareness of the neanderthal and simplistic thinking that exists amongst some the American politicians. It frightens them. The question well attacked that issue well. I don't think Walker exactly shinned in his answer. The man has to have better answers than that if he wants to play on the big stage.

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    Re: Scott Walker--Embarrassment to America

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Faith is fine...keep it the hell out of science and out of public schools.
    Agreed. Religion cannot be allowed into public policy. Kinda thought that was the entire point behind the separation of Church and State.

    Of course that doesn't mean that a person of faith, or with faith, need be barred from holding office, nor that this person of faith would be any less capable while in office than a person not of faith. A point that some find rather confusing.
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    Re: Scott Walker--Embarrassment to America

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    No, it was actually a great question. Europe have a heightened awareness of the neanderthal and simplistic thinking that exists amongst some the American politicians. It frightens them. The question well attacked that issue well. I don't think Walker exactly shinned in his answer. The man has to have better answers than that if he wants to play on the big stage.
    So you are saying the man was invited to speak at an economic forum and they decided to use that as an excuse to ask him completely unrelated questions they would never ask of a liberal politician? In other words...Their press are scumbags too?

    Where they 'frightened' by Obama's Christianity?

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    Re: Scott Walker--Embarrassment to America

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    "What he doesn't say" is an unknown. To base you argument on an unknown is a logical fallacy, argumentum ad ignorantiam (argument from ignorance).
    Not answering a direct question can speak volumes.

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    Re: Scott Walker--Embarrassment to America

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Agreed. Religion cannot be allowed into public policy. Kinda thought that was the entire point behind the separation of Church and State.

    Of course that doesn't mean that a person of faith, or with faith, need be barred from holding office, nor that this person of faith would be any less capable while in office than a person not of faith. A point that some find rather confusing.
    I don't think he should be barred, but if he is a creationist, I think he is a dumba$$
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    Re: Scott Walker--Embarrassment to America

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The US would lose a lot of credibility both foreign and domestic if it elected someone who doesn't believe in science.


    I think Walker just kissed his chance for the nomination, goodbye.
    Barack Obama said he "walks with God" every day. There's not a chance in hell that nutcase could ever become president either, right? The USA would be a complete laughing stock here and in the whole world if something like that happened.

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    Re: Scott Walker--Embarrassment to America

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The US would lose a lot of credibility both foreign and domestic if it elected someone who doesn't believe in science.


    I think Walker just kissed his chance for the nomination, goodbye.
    No, I don't think so. Perhaps just wishful thinking on your part?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Barack Obama said he "walks with God" every day. There's not a chance in hell that nutcase could ever become president either, right? The USA would be a complete laughing stock here and in the whole world if something like that happened.
    There's a separation between personal beliefs, public policy, and the execution of duties of the office. Personal beliefs, at least at the level we are discussing here, don't have much to do with public policy nor the ability of someone to execute the duties of the office they are elected to.

    Equating personal spiritual beliefs to not believing in science is a false equivocation. There are many, if not the vast majority, that believe both in science as well as having personal spiritual beliefs.
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