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    Re: Scott Walker--Embarrassment to America

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Im not asking about your recent family get-togethers...I'm asking a very straightforward question. Is Obamas expressed belief in God and the Creation as essentially and fundamentally expressed in the bible subject to ridicule? Does it make him 'unscientific'? Does his expressed Christian belief necessitate that he NOT believe in science?
    Obama believes in evolution so I don't have a clue what you mean. I you want to talk about belief in God then start another thread.
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    Re: Scott Walker--Embarrassment to America

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    No dodge. In fact when I was Christian that would have pretty much been my answer. I could never jump into the whole biblical inerrancy thing. Probably most Christians don't. I'm pleased to hear that Obama answered the question as best he could. He was/is struggling with his own belief in a logical answer that isn't, "yes, everything in the bible is true, people lived with dinosaurs, the earth is 6,000 years old, and God got another man's wife pregnant".

    In addition, Obama was experiencing relentless accusations from crazy people demanding that he admit that he was a Muslim.

    No matter, as I said in a previous post I didn't vote for Obama. I didn't and don't hang on every possible thing he may have uttered to prove that he is a horrible person. There are thus many things Obama has said of which I am unaware.



    Fine. The Brits certainly felt that the question was not off base judging from their reported response to his answers. A hell of a lot of Americans likely agree. Once again, it means nothing to me personally. I have many reasons for not supporting Walker, his inability to handle obvious questions in London mean nothing to me.



    I have no idea.



    I have no idea and neither do you.
    Thats the longest way possible you could have gone to avoid saying Yes...because he is Christian and believes in the Bible and creation he does not believe in science or No...he can still believe in the Bible, God, Creation, and science.

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    Re: Scott Walker--Embarrassment to America

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    Obama believes in evolution so I don't have a clue what you mean.


    You RESPONDED to a post with his exact words in it. So...again...Yes...because he is Christian and believes in the Bible and creation he does not believe in science or No...he can still believe in the Bible, God, Creation, and science?

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    Re: Scott Walker side steps foreign policy questions on UK trip

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It wasnt a personal attack, it was an observation. If Walker hasnt done much why was all the energy wasted trying to vote him down.
    Because he hasn't accomplished much.


    If he hasnt done much, why all the wailing and gnashing of teeth?
    Who?

    Walkers reforms have saved school districts money and improved the economy in Wisconsin.
    The jury is still out. And if he did how much and at what cost?

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    Re: Scott Walker--Embarrassment to America

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Thats the longest way possible you could have gone to avoid saying Yes...because he is Christian and believes in the Bible and creation he does not believe in science or No...he can still believe in the Bible, God, Creation, and science.
    Not really. Either you believe that everything in the bible is true or you don't. Most people don't believe everything in the bible is true. Science disproves much of what is in the bible.

    Now before we go any further. I will not continue in your obvious effort to derail the thread. If you would like to continue your questioning by all means start a thread and invite me. I'll be more than happy to continue, but I won't participate in yet another attempt to derail a thread.










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    Re: Scott Walker--Embarrassment to America

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post


    You RESPONDED to a post with his exact words in it. So...again...Yes...because he is Christian and believes in the Bible and creation he does not believe in science or No...he can still believe in the Bible, God, Creation, and science?
    If you believe that evolution proves there is no God that is your opinion. Many seem to find evolution compatible with belief in God. It is only the weak minded that cannot make the leap I'm afraid.


    [QUOTE]In a speech given at a Pontifical Academy of Sciences ceremony unveiling a bust of his predecessor, Pope-emeritus Benedict XVI, Pope Francis declared his full-fledged support of evolution as the scientifically correct explanation of the origin of man — and the universe.
    “Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation,” Pope Francis argued at the Academicians’ plenary meeting titled “Evolving Concepts of Nature,” which took place October 24-28. “The scientist must [nevertheless] be moved by a trust in the idea that nature hides, within her evolutionary mechanisms, potentialities that it is the task of intellect and freedom to discover and actuate, in order to achieve the [kind of] development that is in the design of the Creator.”

    Pope Francis made his staunch support of Darwinian evolution over the Genesis account of creation very clear, backing the Roman Catholic Church’s long-established endorsement of the controversial theory.[/QUOTE]

    http://www.onenewsnow.com/church/201...9#.VN0VjGd0zb0
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    Re: Scott Walker side steps foreign policy questions on UK trip

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Because he hasn't accomplished much.
    Perhaps the following are for you, not much. For those whose lives have improved would beg to differ. I for one, believe he's accomplished quite a bit of good things as Governor.
    Walker’s most impressive achievements include transforming Doyle’s $3.6 billion deficit into a $911 million surplus. Walker did this without hiking taxes, as Doyle did. Instead, Walker cut levies by $2.2 billion. This helped stimulate Wisconsin’s economy, lower the unemployment rate on his watch from 7.7 percent to 5.5 percent, and increase per capita income from $38,755 to $43,149. No wonder the share of Wisconsin employers who believe the state is on the right track has soared from 9 percent to 95 percent.
    pic_Corner_110314_KC_Deroy.jpghttp://www.nationalreview.com/corner/391760/scott-walkers-sterling-record-limited-government-deroy-murdock
    You are of course, free to disagree with the above information, by all means please provide some information to counter or illuminate your, ehm position.




    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Who?
    Wisconsin_workers_021711-thumb-640xauto-2305.jpg

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    The jury is still out. And if he did how much and at what cost?
    http://eagnews.org/wp-content/upload...dom-report.pdf
    Scott Walker says union reform law that brought massive protests has saved taxpayers $3 billion | PolitiFact Wisconsin - $3billion
    Walker says school districts statewide saved $200 million in health insurance costs just in 2011-’12, the first year after Act 10. That calculation comes from the nonpartisan Wisconsin Taxpayers Alliance.

    Dale Knapp, the group’s research director, told us the figure is conservative.

    Meanwhile, Walker says state government has saved $482 million on health insurance savings as a result of the higher employee premium contributions and changes made to health coverage -- $264 million for 2012 and 2013, plus $218 million for 2014 and 2015. He cited figures the State Budget Office uses to help create the state budget.

    The $200 million in school district health insurance savings plus the $482 million in state savings equals $682 million in health savings. Added to the $2.35 billion in pension savings makes $3.03 billion in total savings.

    The figures don’t take into account health insurance savings seen by municipalities, nor health savings seen by school districts after the first year of Act 10, so the actual number would be higher. Knapp said he’s not aware of any savings calculations for municipalities.

    Moreover, there is anecdotal evidence of other savings throughout the state.

    For example, a Milwaukee Public Schools actuarial report in 2012 said Act 10 enabled the school district to shave $1 billion from its long-term benefit obligations to retirees. MPS used the law to raise eligibility requirements for retirement benefits other than pension and changed the design of health care plans.
    See, I've been watching Walkers moves, after all the "Sky is falling" from the union folks, here was a test of what would happen. So far, I fail to see the down side, further more there is a lot of accomplishment, of course it could all be just personal opinion and I have my facts wrong... I don't think so though.
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    Re: Scott Walker side steps foreign policy questions on UK trip

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    Scott Walker side steps foreign policy questions on UK trip - CSMonitor.com

    The British audience groaned and also laughed at Walker. The moderator says "Oh REALLY??? ANY British politician, right or left, would laugh and say 'yes of course evolution is true.'"

    Thanks, Scott, for demonstrating to the world how backward and superstitious one of America's two great political parties are.
    Firstly, Scott Walker's refusal to answer such an innocuous questions reveals just what a milquetoast he is. Secondly, either he is a believer in Darwin's Theory of Evolution or he does not. The fact that he was afraid to answer such a harmless question from the media says loud and clear he is not a leader in the true sense of the word and certainly should never be president of the most powerful nation, the USA.

    Scott Walker is a protégé of the multi-BILLIONAIRE Koch brothers, as are Christie, and Jindal, who are trying to manipulate American policy by selecting "YES" men who are ultra-ambitious for political power and wealth. Therefore, in Walker's desire to get the US nomination for President he is walking a tightrope, refusing to open his mouth for fear of saying the wrong thing that will make him look the fool. He saw what happened to Bobby Jindal, the big mouth governor from Alabama, Chris Christie, governor of New Jersey, and lastly, in 2012, Mitt Romney, former governor of Massachusetts. It's not that these governors do not know the answer to these questions..... they are afraid if it comes out sounding wrong in their visit to the UK they will be ridiculed back home and end up looking like a buffoon. Therein lie the problem, fear of sounding dumb...fear of displeasing their sponsors and losing their chance at the Nomination for president of the US.

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    Re: Scott Walker--Embarrassment to America

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Not really. Either you believe that everything in the bible is true or you don't. Most people don't believe everything in the bible is true. Science disproves much of what is in the bible.

    Now before we go any further. I will not continue in your obvious effort to derail the thread. If you would like to continue your questioning by all means start a thread and invite me. I'll be more than happy to continue, but I won't participate in yet another attempt to derail a thread.
    Horse****.This is absolutely not even a LITTLE bit of a derailment of the thread. The thread presents ridicule of Walker, a potential candidate for president, for a belief system that is described as unscientific. His belief system mirrors the current commander in chiefs, therefore...the president ALSO is___________. Or Walker is NOT _________________.

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    Re: Scott Walker side steps foreign policy questions on UK trip

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Perhaps the following are for you, not much. For those whose lives have improved would beg to differ. I for one, believe he's accomplished quite a bit of good things as Governor.

    pic_Corner_110314_KC_Deroy.jpghttp://www.nationalreview.com/corner/391760/scott-walkers-sterling-record-limited-government-deroy-murdock
    You are of course, free to disagree with the above information, by all means please provide some information to counter or illuminate your, ehm position.






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    http://eagnews.org/wp-content/upload...dom-report.pdf
    Scott Walker says union reform law that brought massive protests has saved taxpayers $3 billion | PolitiFact Wisconsin - $3billion


    See, I've been watching Walkers moves, after all the "Sky is falling" from the union folks, here was a test of what would happen. So far, I fail to see the down side, further more there is a lot of accomplishment, of course it could all be just personal opinion and I have my facts wrong... I don't think so though.
    LOL what you call "savings" are nothing but pay cuts for teachers. Is that the miracle? That giving less to teachers saves us money? Wow..

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