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    Re: North Carolina man charged in shooting death of 3 Muslim students

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    Most gun incidents happen due to illegally owned weapons, not people who legally obtained them. And every country has "lethal incidents". They happen. It is better that everyone be able to defend themselves from other people and their government (and possibly other threats) than to worry about "lethal incidents" which in the grand scheme of things, are not that common.
    The people who legally obtain them are selling them to criminals who can't legally buy weapons and are using those guns to commit crimes. When a six year old kid is gunned down by a seventeen year old with a gun that he was given by a fellow gang member, who bought it from some slack jawed hillbilly, who bought it at Ed's "gun's and Wedding gowns" in Indiana, ****'s gotta change.
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    Re: North Carolina man charged in shooting death of 3 Muslim students

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Second, it makes no sense to kill someone out of atheism. Try to think of it this way: you hate the Seattle Sea hawks. They're the worst football team ever. You wish they would go away and die a hundred thousand deaths. Just one problem:
    Sounds liek the shooting was due to a long standing fight between neighbors surrounding parking issues. While the guy was an atheist and most likely a liberal who hated muslims and christians... That appears to have little with what occured.

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    Re: North Carolina man charged in shooting death of 3 Muslim students

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Sounds liek the shooting was due to a long standing fight between neighbors surrounding parking issues. While the guy was an atheist and most likely a liberal who hated muslims and christians... That appears to have little with what occured.
    I have a sneaking suspiscion that had the shooter been involved in a dispute with an afficionado of the Rachel Maddow show who had asked him where to buy the latest edition of Charlie Hebdo, the dispute would not have escalated in triple murder.

    In addition, one of the victim's father said his daughter had informed him that the guy was harassing them because they were openly muslim. To paraphrase another poster: "the victims being muslim added fuel to the fire". My guess, derived from his active face book likes, is that it added a significant amount of fuel.

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    Re: North Carolina man charged in shooting death of 3 Muslim students

    Quote Originally Posted by spangledbanner View Post
    US media is to blame. And US politics. I am sure this will happen again. Muslim lives matter America.

    edit- protect your Muslims America! What is being done to protect American Muslims from terror? Of course they will be a target of terror with US media and politics being so anti-Muslim.

    What is with the double standard? Imagine if a Muslim just **** three Anglo. This would be huge news.
    So if someone goes and shoots up a Fox News station should I blame you?
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    Re: North Carolina man charged in shooting death of 3 Muslim students

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Seems Fox updated the story and the new article says it was over a parking dispute rather than because of the victim's religion. Either way, a terrible act and I hope the perp gets punished severely for it.
    See, if we just stay out of their parking spaces...
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    Re: North Carolina man charged in shooting death of 3 Muslim students

    Quote Originally Posted by spangledbanner View Post
    I blame Fox News for this primarily and US media in general. It was only a matter of time. I hope that Bill ORielly and Sean Hannity are happy now.
    And they advocated murder when?
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    Re: North Carolina man charged in shooting death of 3 Muslim students

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    I have a sneaking suspiscion that had the shooter been involved in a dispute with an afficionado of the Rachel Maddow show who had asked him where to buy the latest edition of Charlie Hebdo, the dispute would not have escalated in triple murder.
    If the dispute had been going on for a long time and the circumstances were similar.. I have a suspicion it would have.

    In addition, one of the victim's father said his daughter had informed him that the guy was harassing them because they were openly muslim. To paraphrase another poster: "the victims being muslim added fuel to the fire". My guess, derived from his active face book likes, is that it added a significant amount of fuel.
    People have a way to see racism where often none exists.. The latest Pharrell Williams / Zac Braff tweet as an example. Was he really harassing them because they were muslim, or was he harassing them because of the parking issue and they just leapt to the conclusion that it was really due to them being muslim - Not to say there isn't any racism... but the incorrect charge of racism happens very often.

    Anyway, a video from the wife.. who is convinced it was related to the long term parking dispute.

    Wife of Craig Hicks who executed Chapel Hill Muslim students says it wasn't a hate crime | Daily Mail Online

    'I can say with my absolute belief that this incident had nothing to do with religion or these victims' faith,' his wife insisted on Wednesday afternoon. 'But in fact was related to long-standing parking disputes that my husband had with the neighbors.'
    The guys going to jail for a long time.. likely the death penalty (if available in the state).. Seems little reason to lie and make the claim as she did.

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    Re: North Carolina man charged in shooting death of 3 Muslim students

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Anyway, a video from the wife.. who is convinced it was related to the long term parking dispute.

    The guys going to jail for a long time.. likely the death penalty (if available in the state).. Seems little reason to lie and make the claim as she did.
    Bias murder is seen espescially negative by the community and may invite retaliation. As such, she could well have motives to "spin" her memory.
    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    If the dispute had been going on for a long time and the circumstances were similar.. I have a suspicion it would have.

    People have a way to see racism where often none exists..
    I can concede that there is too little information to definetevly say one way or the other. As the same time, the guy:

    - clearly did not like "religous fundamentalists" (how he defined "fundamentalist" is not known) to some degree.
    - the father of a victim related that his daughter concluded the guy was hostile to her religion.
    - the shooter not only shot the male (shooting a male adversary is far more common in respect / disrepect rage shootings), but then deliberatly kills both females as well (far less common).

    Thus, I think there are reasonable indications even know that religion played an aggravating part. In short, lets say they were Je suis Charlie Hebdo wearers. I can see the shooter rage killing the male, but also both females?, far less likely.
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    Re: North Carolina man charged in shooting death of 3 Muslim students

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    I can concede that there is too little information to definetevly say one way or the other.
    I agree. While I believe it was the long term dispute.. There is not enough to say definitively. Though, the cops sure seem to be leaning that way, much as I am. The guy has alleged anger issues, was confrontational and showed little compassion for people. The only people he shot just happened to be the ones involved in the long time dispute and he didn't even attempt to kill anyother muslims. Time will tell, but I feel on pretty solid ground.

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    Re: North Carolina man charged in shooting death of 3 Muslim students

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Islam isnt a very nice "religion" even without the jihad.
    The guy who murdered three people today agrees with you.

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