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    Re: Congress probing White House role in FCC chief's net-neutrality plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    This isn't about net neutrality. It's about generating revenue under the guise of Net Neutrality. It is subjecting a service to regulation and taxation that it was not subjected to before. And you are going to be paying more if this passes. At least 16.1% more as a tax/fee.
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    All of this depends on who you want to believe (confirmation bias) and unfortunately, "net neutrality" is an ideological divide with the Republican/conservatives against it because;

    1 - They always oppose anything Obama is for, regardless of how good it is for the country and consumer.

    2 - The political right is pro-corporation to an extent where they will support them, even if it harms their own members.

    3 - "Another clue to the Republican leaders' true intentions is their citation of a thoroughly debunked "study" from the so-called Progressive Policy Institute. In the study, PPI falsely claimed that Title II could lead to as much as $15 billion in new taxes on Internet users. The recent reauthorization of the Internet Tax Freedom Act killed any such threat. (Sen. Ron Wyden called PPI's claims "baloney.") But thanks to the cable lobby, the Wall Street Journal and noted progressive Grover Norquist, this zombie lie keeps coming back to life". - source

    Also see: Congress Puts to Rest the Great Internet Tax Hoax of 2014

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    Re: Congress probing White House role in FCC chief's net-neutrality plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    All of this depends on who you want to believe (confirmation bias) and unfortunately, "net neutrality" is an ideological divide with the Republican/conservatives against it because;

    1 - They always oppose anything Obama is for, regardless of how good it is for the country and consumer.

    2 - The political right is pro-corporation to an extent where they will support them, even if it harms their own members.

    3 - "Another clue to the Republican leaders' true intentions is their citation of a thoroughly debunked "study" from the so-called Progressive Policy Institute. In the study, PPI falsely claimed that Title II could lead to as much as $15 billion in new taxes on Internet users. The recent reauthorization of the Internet Tax Freedom Act killed any such threat. (Sen. Ron Wyden called PPI's claims "baloney.") But thanks to the cable lobby, the Wall Street Journal and noted progressive Grover Norquist, this zombie lie keeps coming back to life". - source

    Also see: Congress Puts to Rest the Great Internet Tax Hoax of 2014



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    Re: Congress probing White House role in FCC chief's net-neutrality plan

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    So basically, the administration is calling over-regulation and control of the internet "Net Neutrality".

    You are not allowed to read the 333 page plan.





    Until it's voted on.




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    Look how proud that mother****er looks saddling us with more regulations and opening the door to taxation.
    for those slow on the uptake:
    If by "that mother****er" you mean Obama hanging on the wall, then yes, but the guy holding Obama's plan is the FCC member fighting against it.
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    Re: Congress probing White House role in FCC chief's net-neutrality plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Just so we're clear, you want to hand over the reigns of the entire internet to the same government that spent two years to get a website ready to go for it to (laughably) fail in their face and force them to turn around and pay a hundred million dollars to fix it? Or are you wanting to hand over the infrastructure to said government that is like five or ten trillion dollars behind on infrastructure spending?
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    While I may be wrong, I think you are over dramatizing this. All that the FCC's Tom Wheller suggested is that any new net neutrality rules will be based upon the Title II of the Communications Act. To wit;

    The FCC’s 2010 order was intended to prevent broadband Internet service providers from blocking or interfering with traffic on the Web. The Open Internet Order was generally designed to ensure the Internet remained a level playing field for all — that's the principle we call Net Neutrality (we say “generally,” since the FCC’s rules prohibited wired ISPs from blocking and discriminating against content, while allowing wireless ISPs to discriminate against but not block websites). - source
    If you want to believe that the Feds will exercise draconian control over the internet, have at it. However, past enforcement of the (47 CFR 20.15) Title II of the Communications Act, by the federal government has shown no abuse.

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    Re: Congress probing White House role in FCC chief's net-neutrality plan

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    If by "that mother****er" you mean Obama hanging on the wall, then yes, but the guy holding Obama's plan is the FCC member fighting against it.


    yeah, I realize that now, I change it to the one on the wall. lol
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    Re: Congress probing White House role in FCC chief's net-neutrality plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    All of this depends on who you want to believe (confirmation bias) and unfortunately, "net neutrality" is an ideological divide with the Republican/conservatives against it because;

    1 - They always oppose anything Obama is for, regardless of how good it is for the country and consumer.

    2 - The political right is pro-corporation to an extent where they will support them, even if it harms their own members.

    3 - "Another clue to the Republican leaders' true intentions is their citation of a thoroughly debunked "study" from the so-called Progressive Policy Institute. In the study, PPI falsely claimed that Title II could lead to as much as $15 billion in new taxes on Internet users. The recent reauthorization of the Internet Tax Freedom Act killed any such threat. (Sen. Ron Wyden called PPI's claims "baloney.") But thanks to the cable lobby, the Wall Street Journal and noted progressive Grover Norquist, this zombie lie keeps coming back to life". - source

    Also see: Congress Puts to Rest the Great Internet Tax Hoax of 2014
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    Re: Congress probing White House role in FCC chief's net-neutrality plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    While I may be wrong, I think you are over dramatizing this. All that the FCC's Tom Wheller suggested is that any new net neutrality rules will be based upon the Title II of the Communications Act. To wit;

    If you want to believe that the Feds will exercise draconian control over the internet, have at it. However, past enforcement of the (47 CFR 20.15) Title II of the Communications Act, by the federal government has shown no abuse.
    All I'm saying, is that there is more to this net neutrality story than what Youtubers know or will say. After all, you do realize what Tom Wheeler did before he became FCC chair yes? And who put him in there? If this was really bad for business, do you really think he'd be behind it considering the background?

    And incidentally, the Right doesn't oppose *everything* Obama does. In fact, on foreign policy issues, you'll find they align more often than not. And when they don't, you'll usually see the democrats in congress siding with Republicans as well.

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    Re: Congress probing White House role in FCC chief's net-neutrality plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    While I may be wrong, I think you are over dramatizing this. All that the FCC's Tom Wheller suggested is that any new net neutrality rules will be based upon the Title II of the Communications Act. To wit;



    If you want to believe that the Feds will exercise draconian control over the internet, have at it. However, past enforcement of the (47 CFR 20.15) Title II of the Communications Act, by the federal government has shown no abuse.


    lol, then explain the release that's posted here showing the plan it is verboten for us to read suggesting far more than this simplistic explanation.
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    Re: Congress probing White House role in FCC chief's net-neutrality plan

    This kind of Government (FCC) uber-regulation has failed Court review before and hopefully will again. But you have to admire the Left's doggedness.
    It's a naked attempt to apply the "Fairness Doctrine" to internet content with the Federal Government deciding what's Fair.
    And think about how often Obama uses the word "Fair" as an excuse for his extra-legal actions.
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    Re: Congress probing White House role in FCC chief's net-neutrality plan

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Pax, you know I love you like a sister but you've got to realize you're looking to trade private influences you have the freedom to reject, for Government control you're obliged to accept.
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    I look at it this way....I (or we as consumers) have absolutely no say when the Big 4 telecoms raise rates, add charges and throttle ones service. With government oversight (not control) I at least have an avenue I can go to someone, such as an elected official, who will at the very least, will listen to my complaint(s). I have no such assurances with a corporation.

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