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    Re: Charges dismissed in Arizona Iced Tea arrest outside Fayetteville liquor store

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    Re: Charges dismissed in Arizona Iced Tea arrest outside Fayetteville liquor store

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    My first experience with cops was 4 undercover guys dressed like hippies knocking on my door at 3am. They showed a flash of a document and a badge but, I had been asleep so it could having been anyone. (Note to self don't answer so quickly these days)
    Well, that's great for you if you opened. I wouldn't have. Call me crazy. I don't open the door for 4 people in the middle of the night.

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    Re: Charges dismissed in Arizona Iced Tea arrest outside Fayetteville liquor store

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    If there would have been alcohol in that iced tea, it would have been trespass.
    Yes, and if I had wheels for feet you could call me a bicycle and ride me like a lowrider. However, I don't and he didn't have alcohol, so there was no trespassing.
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    Re: Charges dismissed in Arizona Iced Tea arrest outside Fayetteville liquor store

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yes, and if I had wheels for feet you could call me a bicycle and ride me like a lowrider. However, I don't and he didn't have alcohol, so there was no trespassing.
    How did the cop know that? He was alcohol enforcement...that's what they do.
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    Re: Charges dismissed in Arizona Iced Tea arrest outside Fayetteville liquor store

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    It was a liqueur store parking lot so the cop did have the right to suspect. It would be tresspassing to consume in that lot.
    Really? So anyone walking past or near a liquor store who happens to drinking something in a can a bottle is giving reasonable suspicion for a stop? I seriously do not think so. And the judge agreed.
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    Re: Charges dismissed in Arizona Iced Tea arrest outside Fayetteville liquor store

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    How did the cop know that? He was alcohol enforcement...that's what they do.
    Jude said he didn't have probable cause.
    You should try to remember, ideas are conveyed by researching information, vetting sources, and confirming said information. Not by regurgitating talking points given to you by your "news" station.
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    Re: Charges dismissed in Arizona Iced Tea arrest outside Fayetteville liquor store

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    How did the cop know that? He was alcohol enforcement...that's what they do.
    That's the entire point of this thread. That a cop shouldn't get to arrest you because of what he doesn't know. Cops don't know if the guy sitting next to me is a serial killer. Should he be arrested next time he goes shopping for kitchen knives?
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    Re: Charges dismissed in Arizona Iced Tea arrest outside Fayetteville liquor store

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Jude said he didn't have probable cause.
    If you are going to do that at least get it right.

    The judge stated there was no reasonable suspicion for the stop.
    Didn't say anything about Probable Cause.

    And no... they aren't the same thing.

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    Re: Charges dismissed in Arizona Iced Tea arrest outside Fayetteville liquor store

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    If you are going to do that at least get it right.

    The judge stated there was no reasonable suspicion for the stop.
    Didn't say anything about Probable Cause.

    And no... they aren't the same thing.




    lol, I had to at least give you something to argue over on this one.



    yes, I also no about contact, detainment arrest.

    Reasonable suspicion is whats needed for detainment, mirite?
    You should try to remember, ideas are conveyed by researching information, vetting sources, and confirming said information. Not by regurgitating talking points given to you by your "news" station.
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    Re: Charges dismissed in Arizona Iced Tea arrest outside Fayetteville liquor store

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    lol, I had to at least give you something to argue over on this one.



    yes, I also no about contact, detainment arrest.

    Reasonable suspicion is whats needed for detainment, mirite?
    Yes.
    And because the reasoning behind the detention from its start was lacking in "reasonableness", the entirety of the situation is thrown out in the eyes of the court.

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