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    Re: Charges dismissed in Arizona Iced Tea arrest outside Fayetteville liquor store

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Seems you are of the opinion whatever the cop says is gospel.
    Not at all. This cop got no respect from these hip- hoppers. It still looks staged.
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    Re: Charges dismissed in Arizona Iced Tea arrest outside Fayetteville liquor store

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    That would have been for a judge to decide, assuming identification was an issue of the case. But it wasn't. The real issue was the blatant lack of reasonable suspicion.

    My opinion was that the quick badge flash was not enough to positively identify a police officer, and therefore compliance was not required.
    Maybe those fellas got the idea he was a cop after the very realistic cop-like takedown manuvour he used on that smart ass uncooperative, noncompliant brother?
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    Re: Charges dismissed in Arizona Iced Tea arrest outside Fayetteville liquor store

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    I didn't see this cop show a badge or identify himself. Are you saying you'd be ok with random people walking up to you and claiming to be cops and investigating you? You really are one of the submissive sheep Benjamin Franklin warned us about...
    You do know these are the same authorities who send underaged people into stores to catch employees selling alcohol to minors?
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    Re: Charges dismissed in Arizona Iced Tea arrest outside Fayetteville liquor store

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Nope but, all the guy had to do was let the cop.smell.his drink and all.would be good . Instead he cussed the guy out.

    You make your own fate
    .... Ummm... he told the cop to look at the can... he didn't have to let the cop do anything as there was absolutely no reasonable suspicion to begin with. Your apologetics really are getting absurd.
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    Re: Charges dismissed in Arizona Iced Tea arrest outside Fayetteville liquor store

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    You do know these are the same authorities who send underaged people into stores to catch employees selling alcohol to minors?
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    Re: Charges dismissed in Arizona Iced Tea arrest outside Fayetteville liquor store

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Are they exempt from having to get a warrant before they demand a person incriminate themselves?
    Uhhh....

    A warrant....

    Methinks you don't know how the 4th Amendment ACTUALLY works.

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    Re: Charges dismissed in Arizona Iced Tea arrest outside Fayetteville liquor store

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Yes. They threw me to the ground and cuffed me in my house for a trip to the psych ward.
    Did they have Involuntary Committment papers?

    Did you resist?

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    Re: Charges dismissed in Arizona Iced Tea arrest outside Fayetteville liquor store

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    I do know.

    No, you are talking about that which you do not know.
    Asking for the number on the badge is different from knowing what the badge represents, or as you put it, "confirm the badge". .


    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    If you had viewed the video like you claim you did, you'd hear the victim saying "let me see your badge number".
    And?

    You were the only one not paying attention as you demonstrated by saying you didn't see what was clearly shown in the video.

    You said two specific things; "I didn't see this cop show a badge or identify himself."
    Yet he did both. He ID'd himself as an Officer at 00:55, and showed his badge at 02:10.


    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Instead of allowing his badge to be confirmed this cop shoved the victim and got aggressive.

    You haven't shown he needs to do any such thing.
    Again, like I previously said.
    Don't care if you do not like the length that he showed it.
    It was displayed long enough for anyone paying attention to know he showed his badge.


    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    He's lucky none of those people were carrying guns. This cop definitely would have deserved to be shot.
    Besides being wrong, that is big talk coming from someone who doesn't know what they are talking about.





    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    That would have been for a judge to decide, assuming identification was an issue of the case.
    [...]
    My opinion was that the quick badge flash was not enough to positively identify a police officer, and therefore compliance was not required.
    Three claims were made.
    1. A repeated and patently false claim that no badge was shown was made by one person.
    2. Another person claimed they didn't see this cop show a badge or identify himself. Which only shows that person wasn't paying attention.
    3. You then interjected with your bs nonsense after I corrected those two and falsely claimed it wasn't sufficient.
    Which you still have failed to show it wasn't sufficient under the law. (Which you can't.) And are now trying to deflect by saying that it would need to be determined by the judge.

    Bs. You clearly do not know what you are talking about.
    1. Very few States require an Officer ID their self (last I had occasion to check, it was two).
    2. Most Departments have a policy regarding such, which is not law.
    3. When out of normal Uniform, verbally ID'ing yourself as Police Officer and flashing a badge is sufficient.


    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    But it wasn't. The real issue was the blatant lack of reasonable suspicion.
    Which is irrelevant to the specific argument you interjected your self into.
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    Re: Charges dismissed in Arizona Iced Tea arrest outside Fayetteville liquor store

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    By not allowing the cop to smell his, IMO,he escalated the situation. By refusing to leave, he guaranteed himself further trouble.

    The cop made a mistake by not showing his badge.
    The cop made the mistake of ever talking to him in the first place.

    I love how it's always the "small government" people who throw out the constitution whenever a citizen has their rights infringed upon by law enforcement.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Charges dismissed in Arizona Iced Tea arrest outside Fayetteville liquor store

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The cop made the mistake of ever talking to him in the first place.

    I love how it's always the "small government" people who throw out the constitution whenever a citizen has their rights infringed upon by law enforcement.
    I love it how our opinions differ and every ****ing subject.

    I love it how we disagree on Constituional and legal matters.

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