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    Re: Civil Rights Attorneys Sue Ferguson Over 'Debtors Prisons'

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    Penalize them for sure. Some form of community service to pay off their debt, but not prison. Prison is no place for a victimless crime.
    Tax evasion is a victimless crime. Do you want to do away with jail time for tax evasion? What about perjury?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Civil Rights Attorneys Sue Ferguson Over 'Debtors Prisons'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Tax evasion is a victimless crime. Do you want to do away with jail time for tax evasion? What about perjury?
    Sure, why not. Here's what I don't understand. Someone owes $1000 in fines but can't pay it, so people are okay with depending thousands of tax payer money to incarcerate them.
    I have CDO, it's like OCD but the letters are in alphabetical order like they should be.

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    Re: Civil Rights Attorneys Sue Ferguson Over 'Debtors Prisons'

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    Sure, why not. Here's what I don't understand. Someone owes $1000 in fines but can't pay it, so people are okay with depending thousands of tax payer money to incarcerate them.
    Hey, you can't **** around when the government wants it's money. I'm sure their are plenty of Libbos that will tell you about the victims who will suffer, because the government didn't get its revenue.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Civil Rights Attorneys Sue Ferguson Over 'Debtors Prisons'

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Hmm... What, exactly, should we do with the folks that decide to drive without a license, registration or insurance? Is it OK for folks to do as they please so long as they have no "extra" money to pay fines?
    Don't pay the fines, lose your welfare and all government assistance.
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    Re: Civil Rights Attorneys Sue Ferguson Over 'Debtors Prisons'

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    Sure, why not. Here's what I don't understand. Someone owes $1000 in fines but can't pay it, so people are okay with depending thousands of tax payer money to incarcerate them.
    What should we do with people who refuse to pay fines, fine them?

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    Re: Civil Rights Attorneys Sue Ferguson Over 'Debtors Prisons'

    Quote Originally Posted by ironhorse View Post
    What should we do with people who refuse to pay fines, fine them?
    There are options. If they are employed you can garnish their wages. If unemployed and receiving benefits you could reduce their benefits until their fine is paid.
    I have CDO, it's like OCD but the letters are in alphabetical order like they should be.

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    Re: Civil Rights Attorneys Sue Ferguson Over 'Debtors Prisons'

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    There are options. If they are employed you can garnish their wages. If unemployed and receiving benefits you could reduce their benefits until their fine is paid.
    So you want to make their children go hungry?

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    Re: Civil Rights Attorneys Sue Ferguson Over 'Debtors Prisons'

    Quote Originally Posted by ironhorse View Post
    So you want to make their children go hungry?
    Incarcerating them means they won't be able to take care of their children at all.
    I have CDO, it's like OCD but the letters are in alphabetical order like they should be.

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    Re: Civil Rights Attorneys Sue Ferguson Over 'Debtors Prisons'

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Hmm... What, exactly, should we do with the folks that decide to drive without a license, registration or insurance? Is it OK for folks to do as they please so long as they have no "extra" money to pay fines?
    Community service. I've never been anywhere that doesn't have a road or two that could use a little clean up.

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    Re: Civil Rights Attorneys Sue Ferguson Over 'Debtors Prisons'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    This is not the same as debtors prison. Being jailed for a couple weeks for driving without a license or insurance isn't unreasonable, if paying the fine isn't an option. It's not like it's unpaid MasterCard bills.
    Hell, if it's enough thousands I might choose a couple weeks in the hoosegow! Long as I can have a radio and a box of books, a week or two might be quality time.
    I'm going to assume that you've never been to jail. There isn't any "quality time" about it.

    Besides, why jail someone for stuff like this and cost the taxpayers more money when you can put them on a chain gang for a few days or weeks and SAVE the taxpayers money?

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