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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

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    And yet, I'm guessing you fully approve of one and not the other.
    Of course that's what you guess

    Being wrong about what other people believe is completely consistent with your other posts in this thread.
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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Children don't need to be taught about political ideologies. It is better that they can write understandable sentences and do basic arithmetic. I even went through college in the old days without a single mention of anything political in any of my classes (I didn't take political science.) All of my classes stayed on subject. Apparently we don't do that any more.

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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    I teach at a large private universtiy and a state university. I have sat in on hundreds of classes and taken many many as a student. I have never once, not once, had a professor force any sort of political beleifs on me or seen it done to any other student. Most of this librul university BS is RW fantasy outrage stuff, mainly by people that have not been on a campus for anything other than a football game for 20 years. They take a couple of nuts and pretend all professors and universities are like that.
    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Children don't need to be taught about political ideologies. It is better that they can write understandable sentences and do basic arithmetic. I even went through college in the old days without a single mention of anything political in any of my classes (I didn't take political science.) All of my classes stayed on subject. Apparently we don't do that any more.
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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I teach at a large private universtiy and a state university. I have sat in on hundreds of classes and taken many many as a student. I have never once, not once, had a professor force any sort of political beleifs on me or seen it done to any other student. Most of this librul university BS is RW fantasy outrage stuff, mainly by people that have not been on a campus for anything other than a football game for 20 years. They take a couple of nuts and pretend all professors and universities are like that.
    Then our experiences are in agreement. But in the old days there wasn't even any talk of professors bringing political ideology into the classroom. I never even heard of it. It probably is an overstated case but at least someone is making the case and that wasn't so years ago.

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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Looks like something my senior year government teacher would have done, if he had thought of it. He was an open and unabashed vocal Reagan-hater, and staunch liberal.

    This was in 1982, btw.
    A bunch of us hated Governor Reagan when he slashed funding and thousands of mental patients ended up on the streets here in California. It was so easy to hate what Reagan stood for, and this was before his failed presidency.

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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    LOL. You touched many of the Prog/Lib talking points in just one paragraph. Well done!
    If by 'talking points' you mean facts that you cannot dispute, you're right!

    Ignoring absurd claims like the one that laughingly starts with "the fact is", what is the Prog/Lib plan for the unemployed minorities the left has ignored while handing the keys to the country to illegals? More "its the GOP's fault"? I see cracks in that meme widening.
    The left handed the keys of the country to illegals? When did that happen?

    That's the issue with the bile this test reveals. The message in the specific question comes from the left. The test is attempting to drive home a lie told by the left. Call it propaganda confirmation of messaging. Just like the BS in your post, it's not even supported by facts, yet you typed them in and posted them as if it were true.
    LMAO. Which facts did I assert that aren't true?

    Here's a graph showing various estimates of the illegal population. Maybe you can point out the Obama surge?


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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by fred68 View Post
    A bunch of us hated Governor Reagan when he slashed funding and thousands of mental patients ended up on the streets here in California. It was so easy to hate what Reagan stood for, and this was before his failed presidency.
    What I described was in California also, and the teacher was in his late 50s, so it's entirely possible that that might have played a part in his opinion.

    Which is fine. I had, and still don't have, an issue with his opinion, but in a high school teaching environment I thought, and still think, he should have been more professional about how he conveyed it. Really, all the students just thought he was an ass.
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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    It isn't an over simplification, it is a lie.
    No, it's not a lie. I can (and have) pointed to many different instances where Republicans have said we shouldn't spend money on programs which help the poor.

    I also note that you have failed to come up with even one Republican that believes what you say all Republicans believe. It's a bad lie and you have been called on it.
    I've given you many instances. Here are some specific examples:

    On Tuesday, however, the House adopted a parliamentary rule that adds a procedural obstacle to reallocating the money. If Republicans do decide that a transfer is necessary, they can change the rules again easily enough. Still, Rep. Sam Johnson (R-Tex.) said that a reallocation would be only a temporary solution that would avoid making real changes to "the fraud-plagued disability program."

    "It will actually make the retirement program worse off, and it does nothing to fix the disability program," he said in a statement.

    Fraud appears limited to relatively few cases in the disability program, although it is difficult to know precisely how many beneficiaries could be working. A report by the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office found that about 0.4 percent of disability beneficiaries were likely receiving improper payments, because they were working before or after they began receiving checks.
    Social Security disability payments will be cut by a fifth if Congress doesn’t act - The Washington Post

    Governors across the political spectrum are hitting a roadblock in their bids to expand Medicaid with federal funds: Republican legislators who adamantly oppose "Obamacare."

    While some of these governors themselves have criticized the president's health care law in general, they've come to see one component - Medicaid expansion - as too generous to reject. But they're battling conservative lawmakers who say it's better to turn down billions of federal dollars than to expand Medicaid under the 2010 law.

    Partisan politics have driven states' Medicaid decisions ever since the Supreme Court ruled in 2012 that expansion was optional, not mandatory, under the new law. Within months, every Democratic governor agreed to expand Medicaid (although Republican legislatures blocked a few of those efforts).
    Only nine states with Republican governors accepted the offer.
    Republican lawmakers block bids to expand Medicaid - CBS News

    House Republicans narrowly pushed through a bill on Thursday that slashes billions of dollars from the food stamp program, over the objections of Democrats and a veto threat from President Obama.

    The vote set up what promised to be a major clash with the Senate and dashed hopes for passage this year of a new five-year farm bill. The vote was 217 to 210, largely along party lines. Republican leaders, under pressure from Tea Party-backed conservatives, said the bill was needed because the food stamp program, which costs nearly $80 billion a year, had grown out of control. They said the program had expanded even as jobless rates had declined with the easing recession.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/20/us...amps.html?_r=0


    You're wrong. Republicans have constantly and consistently said we shouldn't waste taxpayer money on programs which help the poor. I'll await your apology for calling me a liar.

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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    No, it's not a lie. I can (and have) pointed to many different instances where Republicans have said we shouldn't spend money on programs which help the poor.

    I've given you many instances. Here are some specific examples:


    Social Security disability payments will be cut by a fifth if Congress doesn’t act - The Washington Post



    Republican lawmakers block bids to expand Medicaid - CBS News


    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/20/us...amps.html?_r=0


    You're wrong. Republicans have constantly and consistently said we shouldn't waste taxpayer money on programs which help the poor. I'll await your apology for calling me a liar.


    Thank you for proving my point. Your evidence is Republicans who believe certain welfare programs shouldn't be expanded. That is nothing at all like Republicans being opposed to spending any money on the poor.
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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Thank you for proving my point. Your evidence is Republicans who believe certain welfare programs shouldn't be expanded.
    They believe we shouldn't spend money on those who need it. That's been the point from the very beginning. Also, you'll notice the other two examples were (possible/attempted) CUTS to existing programs, not expansions.

    Geez, you could at least address the points honestly, not simply cherry pick the ones you think you can address.

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