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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    One you are being disingenuous in offering that this is a simple quiz about preference of government.
    Umm, even the mom who submitted this quiz to some media site said that's what it is about.

    .it's an out and out push poll.
    No, it's an assignment in government class, one whose legitimacy is wanting. Please actually read the article if you wish to discuss this. Thanks.

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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post

    If Republicans do not appreciate the idea this is what people think of them, then perhaps they ought to reflect on WHY this is the view of them.
    Right, must be all our doing (some is, to be sure). Certainly our beliefs are never simplified and mischaracterized as you've done repeatedly. Of course, the first time anyone makes uncomfortable generalizations about Democrats and it's the end of the world.

    It's easiest thing in the world to be a liberal, isn't it? You can advocate free flying ponies for everyone without ever considering if it actually does any good or is even possible.
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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    This smells to high heaven of internet rumor.
    Quoted for emphasis.

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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Ignoring for a moment one quiz in one teacher's class would never be an overall reflection of the school as a whole...is that not what Republicans are constantly saying? Oh sure, they don't use such plain terms, but are they not the ones who keep saying the government shouldn't support the poor, they need to get out and get a job and support themselves? Aren't they the ones saying the government shouldn't help the poor, it should be left up to charities?

    I guess I don't understand the furor here when it's basically what Republicans have been saying for years.
    Raging liberal false truism that only fools accept.

    Opposing endlessly more money to "the poor" - regardless of why the person is poor and whether the person is capable of working but doesn't - does not in the slightest equate to opposing helping the poor.

    Yes, government is your bottomless supply of money to give to everyone and that only your perfectly omnipotent, omniscient and benevolent government can help anyone.

    It is a lie to claim Republicans oppose helping the poor.

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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Illegal aliens are encouraged by the Jobs Creators - cheap, disposable labor is good for bidness.

    It's hilarious that immigration has become this hot button issue during a roughly 6 year net DECLINE in the number of illegals in this country. You'd think we were in the middle of the Bush administration or something....
    What an absurd statement in response to my post.

    Do you deny Liberal/Progressives are encouraging illegal aliens to come here, and are providing safe harbor? The only reason the numbers have declined is because of the anemic recovery caused by the Presidents and Congresses inept efforts.

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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Umm, even the mom who submitted this quiz to some media site said that's what it is about.

    No, it's an assignment in government class, one whose legitimacy is wanting. Please actually read the article if you wish to discuss this. Thanks.
    I don't care what you or the person who submitted SAID. Uniformed opinions are like ass holes everyone has one and they mostly stink.

    You compound an arrogant and superior post with a second one even more disingenuous.

    Do you even know what constitutes a push poll?
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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I've already directed you to numerous examples of where Republicans do not support taxpayer money going to those who are poor. SSDI, "Obamaphones", subsidies for ACA, etc.
    Yes, I'm a shill for the school. That's why I signed up on the forums nearly two years ago, because I knew (two years in advance, mind you) this situation was going to happen.

    By the way, if it feels like I'm mocking your comment, well...
    It's all good. It wasn't a serious suggestion anyway. I was just thinking up Internet quiz and my question to myself was, "Of all those posting in this thread, who would most likely be a shill for the use of this worksheet". Can I help it how you're perceived?

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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Yes, irrelevant. The concept of the quiz was to take positions held by the political party/lean and decide which statements go with what the party says. Since the Democratic party has never publicly claimed the position you claim they act out, your comment is irrelevant.
    We're not talking about what's harmful, we're talking about what belongs on this quiz.

    Do you think you might pay attention to what we're discussing?
    You're not even talking about the right thing. Get back to me when you understand what's going on.
    Umm, it's basically cut and dry 1st Amendment. It's a statement about government not restricting the information you have access to. It very much is a comment about governing.

    This I'll agree with. However, we both know American governmental history is full of laws passed on the very concept of morality. So while the statement isn't really focused on governing, it IS a statement relating to how government should pass laws.

    Except the government took the money in taxes, so government run daycares is necessary. In other words, to support government run daycares, the government needs to collect more taxes.

    This quiz is very much related to philosophies of governing.

    Agree. And I'm not saying the quiz question is a good one, but I AM saying it's valid. And there's a difference between being good and being valid.

    But at the end of the day, Republicans are routinely saying government is wasting taxpayer money by helping those who are on welfare. This isn't really something which can be denied, I don't believe.

    But it does go to show the examples on the quiz were being made to be clear enough to differentiate between the different philosophies. So, much like the communist statement, the first statement is meant to be clear as to who is more likely to believe such a position.


    To be clear, I do not think this is a good quiz. I think the person putting it together did not do a good job at all. But the point I'm making is that if you put the statement, "we should not help the poor, it's a waste of money" to 100 Americans, an overwhelming majority of Americans will attribute such a statement to the Republican party. And there's a reason for that.

    If Republicans do not appreciate the idea this is what people think of them, then perhaps they ought to reflect on WHY this is the view of them.

    There's no strawman here. I can point to several examples of where the statement on the quiz has been played out in real life in the Republican party.

    I'm not sure why you think the truth is a strawman.

    We agree on this. But you wouldn't even need photoshop for this, I could make this type of quiz in MS Word in 5-10 minutes.
    Shoot me.

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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Shoot me.
    Wow how condesecing....and that's all you shoot back with?

    Nice
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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Maybe that teacher was doing exactly what he/she was told to do. Would you fire someone for that?
    That's what the Nazis said, too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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