It's hilarious that immigration has become this hot button issue during a roughly 6 year net DECLINE in the number of illegals in this country. You'd think we were in the middle of the Bush administration or something....
But you WILL find Republicans who complain helping those who are poor is a waste of money.Second, you won't find many republicans who support the abolition of state care for the needy.
I understand what you're saying. You're saying Republicans don't mind helping those who truly need it but don't want to help those who are lazy. I get it. But the Republican message has long been "it's not the government's job to help".
“I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.
“Most of the shadows of this life are caused by standing in one's own sunshine.”
Ralph Waldo Emerson
To her Wall Street owners: Hillary Clinton: “But if everybody's watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least. so, you need both a public and a private position.” - Hillary Clinton: "I'm kind of far removed from the struggles of the Middle Class"
Well... don't you? It certainly sounds like you think that. The things conservatives say and do give the impression that you think that.
Liberté. Égalité. Fraternité.
The "Right to read anything you want" isn't really talking about sense of governing. The comment about morality isn't seemingly presented in a way focused on governing. AND, if it was focused on governing, there would be no reasonto highlight that we should provide "government-run" daycares as opposed to simply say "provide daycare". The fact it's making a distinction in one of these things suggests that the quiz is showing a difference between general wide ranging thought, and specific government programs.
There is a drastic different between a "cut" to the amount of moeny it spends on helping those who are poor and a flat out statement of not helping. A cut suggests spending less on a particular effort...that is different than simply NOT making that effort at all.that government should cut the amount of money it spends helping those who are poor.
I agree. The "Anyone who's not equal must die" portion of the thing is rather ridiculous, but isn't really the focus of the thread AND on the scale of relevance to the education of children, a fair and accurate representation of Democrats/Republicans is significantly more important in my view than that of a "fascist" or "communist" since the reality is those (along with moderate) are the two that are primarily going to be impacting their lives.And not all communists think people who are not equal should die.
Which again, is an ENTIRELY different suggestion than "we should not help the poor". Stating "We spend too much money helping the poor, and it's a waste" is an entirely different notion than "We should not help the poor, it's a waste".But the point remains that, as a general rule, politicians within the Republican party think we waste too much money helping those who don't have money.
And if you want to go with that simplistic notion, from that mindset, it'd probably be best as "We waste too much money trying to help the poor survive instead of trying to help them to stop being poor."
Cool, you go right ahead with not entertaining the strawman of your own creation. I really have no care about whether or not you entertain your own imaginary points.This isn't really even a debate. If I felt like it, I'm sure I can find plenty of instances of Republicans whining about SSDI, Obamaphones, subsidies for ACA, etc. The idea Republicans don't generally complain about government spending on the poor is just really not worth entertaining.
My point wasn't that Republicans in general want less social safety net programs for the poor than Democrats (something I absolutely agree with), my point was that Republicans in general do not want zero help for the poor (even if we're just talking about help from the government). None of those things you mentioned go against my point.
In the age of Photoshop I agree 100% here.(and I always have my doubts, given how often these things turn out to be bogus)
"I am appalled that somebody who is the nominee...would take that kind of position"
"A court took away a presidency"
"...the brother of a man running for president was the governor of the state..."
It's horrifying because Trump is blunt instead of making overt implications.
The point is that Republicans DO take this position verbally. The question, though not really proper, is valid in the sense it is what Republicans publicly say. You BELIEVE Democrats hold such a position, but Democrats do not publicly claim a position.
Let's put it another way. If one of the questions was "People should not own a gun which is not on file with the government", then it would be something Democrats have said. Then THAT would be a valid quiz statement. But Democrats do NOT publicly claim what you believe they do, so it wouldn't be a valid quiz statement.
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There is not one thing on that test that is not stupid beyond all belief.