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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    If by 'talking points' you mean facts that you cannot dispute, you're right!



    The left handed the keys of the country to illegals? When did that happen?



    LMAO. Which facts did I assert that aren't true?

    Here's a graph showing various estimates of the illegal population. Maybe you can point out the Obama surge?

    Let's take a look at one of your claims in a previous post on this thread.


    "BTW, the people you're saying are getting a 'safe harbor' are children. Yeah, that's awful we're treating them humanly."

    Here is a snip of a recent US Border Patrol report, available on their website.

    BP Report.jpg

    Note the column on the right. All those percentage gains. Note the number of family units crossing. You know, the ones who have not been kicked out. Compare that to the number of children.

    By the US Border Patrols own report your claim is laughable. Why go any further?

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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Thanks for that link.

    I think that School District spokesman missed the point.

    Spokesman Brian Vissers refrained from saying whether the teacher was correct to mark the student's answer to that particular statement about not helping the poor as a conservative belief.

    But he said the issue had been fueled by EAG, a media group with an anti-public education agenda.

    "There are all types of questions on this assignment ranging from far right to far left," he said. "It seems like the mother in this case just pulled out what her political views are. She didn't have any issues with the articles or questions on the other side of the political spectrum."

    The overarching point is that the teacher portrayed an obvious liberal bias in the quiz...something that should not be allowed, especially at the high school level.
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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent [W:7

    Quote Originally Posted by fred68 View Post
    A bunch of us hated Governor Reagan when he slashed funding and thousands of mental patients ended up on the streets here in California. It was so easy to hate what Reagan stood for, and this was before his failed presidency.
    Well at least California has turned their budget issues around !

    They have a surplus, a growing and strong economy and millions of new residents moving into their State to find jobs they couldnt at home....

    Wait, thats not California, thats Texas.

    California's a mess.

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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    The government should help the poor. Help them get jobs. Help them get off drugs, get out of crime ridden areas, and that kind of thing. I'm a republican. I don't like welfare because I don't think it works. If it did, then the generations of people ON welfare wouldn't be on welfare anymore.
    If they ask for help that is. There is nothing wrong with being poor. The government should not help people taht don't want the help.

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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Let's take a look at one of your claims in a previous post on this thread.

    "BTW, the people you're saying are getting a 'safe harbor' are children. Yeah, that's awful we're treating them humanly."

    Here is a snip of a recent US Border Patrol report, available on their website.

    Note the column on the right. All those percentage gains. Note the number of family units crossing. You know, the ones who have not been kicked out. Compare that to the number of children.

    By the US Border Patrols own report your claim is laughable. Why go any further?
    I'm a bit confused. I make a claim about children, then you point me to a summary of apprehensions at the border of.... children, and family units which are (we'll generalize) a parent(s) and child(ren).

    So what part did I get wrong? And there is no evidence we're not kicking them out, but if they're not from Mexico, it's more difficult and time consuming according to procedures long in effect. Children require a hearing, and we can't just drop them off somewhere in Mexico with $5, a canteen and a candy bar - we have to fly them home and make sure someone, you know, takes over the care of a CHILD. So while the process grinds on, we're treating the children and family units (parent with child) humanely, which is of course what I said. So you'll have to point out what I'm missing.

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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    LOL !!

    Sure, you " know Republicans " who think teaching Brown people is a waste of time.

    Reminds me of the Teaching scandal that took place in Atlanta back in 2008-2009.

    You see, Black Teachers pulled their resources and literally changed the Test scores on hundreds, maybe thousands of their students Test scores.

    This took place in low income inner city schools. Now, 12 Teachers are on trial including a Principle who received a " Special award " from Obama himself for her miraculous accomplishments.

    It wasn't " Republicans " who screwed these kids, it was their own Teachers. Inner city schools don't fail because of " racist Republicans ".

    Inner city schools dont suffer because of " racist Republicans ", they suffer because of the consequences of Progressive policies that perpetuate poverty and dependance.
    Did you blow a gasket writing that? I never made a political statement about education. I simply said that I know some Republicans that say that teaching brown people is a waste of time. My grandma and others in my family and their super rich conservative friends were having a discussion about it before tee time at the country club. Just a fact.

    What is most interesting is how you took a benign counter argument and showed your true colours though, bringing up those bad black teachers...
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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I'm a bit confused. I make a claim about children, then you point me to a summary of apprehensions at the border of.... children, and family units which are (we'll generalize) a parent(s) and child(ren).

    So what part did I get wrong? And there is no evidence we're not kicking them out, but if they're not from Mexico, it's more difficult and time consuming according to procedures long in effect. Children require a hearing, and we can't just drop them off somewhere in Mexico with $5, a canteen and a candy bar - we have to fly them home and make sure someone, you know, takes over the care of a CHILD. So while the process grinds on, we're treating the children and family units (parent with child) humanely, which is of course what I said. So you'll have to point out what I'm missing.
    Please point me to information detailing the deportation of the women and children counted on the report I posted. All you are proving is a talent for making statements that have no basis in fact.

    Again, post the reports showing these tens of thousands of family units and children have been deported. Otherwise, you've got nothing but platitudes and talking points. Maybe the Progressive Machine backed ProCon.org has some manipulated surveys you can post.

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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Obviously not, as I've already proven it true.
    And again, no you haven't. None of your evidence shows that Republicans believe helping the poor is a waste of money.

    They have said programs which are targeted towards the poor are not worthy of taxpayer money.
    Demonstrably false! All of your "evidence" is of Republicans passing funding bills for the poor that actually spend money on the poor. *shocker*

    It's exactly what they have said. I think it's funny how hard you're trying to cover for your team here.
    No, it's not what they said. Did the Republicans pass bills that fund those programs or not?

    Oh, I didn't even read the rest of your last post. In fact, I almost didn't read the rest of this one. What question did I skip?
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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by fred68 View Post
    A bunch of us hated Governor Reagan when he slashed funding and thousands of mental patients ended up on the streets here in California. It was so easy to hate what Reagan stood for, and this was before his failed presidency.
    BS. Why not arm yourself with some facts? Care to learn what the ACLU had to do with turning out those thousands of mental patients, or are you satisfied with propaganda as a basis of your beliefs?

    You're echoing the what the OP is all about. The force feeding of an invented meme to students, to confirm the propaganda message has been received. It's a reinforcement of lies.

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    Re: School worksheet tells kids GOP thinks helping poor 'waste of money,' parent clai

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Please point me to information detailing the deportation of the women and children counted on the report I posted. All you are proving is a talent for making statements that have no basis in fact.

    Again, post the reports showing these tens of thousands of family units and children have been deported. Otherwise, you've got nothing but platitudes and talking points. Maybe the Progressive Machine backed ProCon.org has some manipulated surveys you can post.
    Let's rewind a bit. You made a couple of statements that I pushed back on. I'll quote them:

    "Who is the most impacted by the massive illegal alien invasion encouraged by Liberal/Progressives?"

    I said immigration was encouraged by the jobs creators, and that the net illegal population has gone DOWN since Obama took office, and posted the evidence.

    We'll fast forward to this assertion by you:

    "Do you deny Liberal/Progressives are encouraging illegal aliens to come here, and are providing safe harbor?"

    My response:

    "I don't see anyone encouraging illegal immigration myself, but even if they are, somehow between Reagan's amnesty and Obama, 12 million arrived here, and now that the total is less than 12 million, it's a CRISIS!!! And it doesn't matter why, really. The fact is illegal immigration is less of a problem in 2105 than at any time since Reagan. Besides, Obama has deported more illegals than any POTUS in recent history. But it's still a CRISIS!! Gosh, can't figure out why that might be.....

    BTW, the people you're saying are getting a 'safe harbor' are children. Yeah, that's awful we're treating them humanly."


    And then you point to a report saying apprehensions of children and families with children have increased, and that they haven't left. First of all, you posted no data on removals of children or 'family units.' But second, I made no claims that all illegals had been kicked out, that we'd kicked out all families, or that we'd kicked out all children. What I said was we were treating children humanely. I suppose I was wrong and should have said we're treating children AND family UNITS humanely.

    Great point. Glad we got that settled. Can't believe how loose I am with the facts.....

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